Green Party Women Facebook group

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Can’t see another thread on this, apologies if I missed it.
Sorry I can’t work out how to link to FB but Green Party Women’s page has issued a statement asking people to refrain from using the term T*rf in light of FPFW report on its use by Green (and other parties) candidates. They’re getting a lot of kickback from TRAs but it’s quite extraordinary reading their new stance and recognition of misogyny and institutionalised sexism in the Greens!

Dont feel so bad about voting for them now

www.facebook.com/647628982020559/posts/2641351582648279/?d=n

I think this might link to the post - looks like some TRA comments have been deleted?

Maybe they should have done this before the election 🤦‍♀️ Big fucking late now to realise women have the vote.

Small disturbance in a rockpool, all very Lilliputian.

Good illustration of what happens to women who speak up in this debate.

• Ask that people not use the term 'TERFS', show evidence of the violent rhetoric attached to the term & its history as a pejorative.

• Receive multiple furious attacks demanding the sacking/expulsion/ejction for 'transphobia'.

Yep, it's all perfectly reasonable.

From what I have gleaned elsewhere - the GPW page was in the past run by TRAs. It took its time - and yes significantly pre-election would have been handy, but here we are - but following activity within the party's membership it is now under the control of women.

Apparently on twitter, the TRAs are refusing to relinquish their account, so a new one either has been set up or is coming.

I wasn't part of the discussion and only half-read it on Facebook, so I apologise in advance if any of this is inaccurate

Heartening to see, little to late mind you. The comments are encouraging. Anti- science and accusations of transphobia soon shut down. Some proper eyebrow raises though (want to say something else but will probably get deleted.)

Is it still ok to call me a non-man though?

You never know they may have a period of reflection and come to the conclusion that calling women 'non-men' probably wasn't the most stellar of ideas.

Chanellor was the first to use "nonmen" - at the time a party darling so the rest ran with it. Chan used it both personally and via the group account/s chan was running at the time - lgbtqiabc iirc, and possibly young greens.

It's never too late for people to realise that something has gone terribly wrong.

Well I read the FB comments and have to say that the woman who is running the page displayed a lot of patience. In doing so she allowed the insanity to emerge, and the rage exhibited by the TRAs. They simply cannot deal with being told no.

The Green Party as a whole are still sticking to their guns. As far as I am aware, this is a group of women attempting to change the party's policies from within.

Though given the vitriol on that page from actual GP members and even office holders it is no wonder so many women just up and leave.

They are very brave. Merely asking people to stop using insulting and dehumanising language seems to have made some people very very angry.

I'm one of the women who upped and left - I'm almost convinced enough recently to rejoin and continue the fight from the inside. Give it a few more weeks...puuuullll....

I've just rejoined Labour in the same spirit, Beyond.

The parties are waking up and realising they've alienated a lot of women voters with their self ID/trans rights stance and their attacks on women who raise concerns. They dont really give a toss about women and women's rights being trampled over, they just want our votes.

There are some people living in an alternative reality to put it politely. They thought they were succeeding in bending our will, to make us believe in it too.
It’s clear that Women are just not having it.
Keep going Green Women.

Jackie H doing sterling work there with legal stuff.

Green Party Women’s page has issued a statement asking people to refrain from using the term Trf in light of FPFW report on its use by Green (and other parties) candidates*

Gosh! Is it too much to hope that they are slowly coming to their senses and realising how misogynist they were being?

I lost any desire to vote Green (and I've voted Green in the past) when they called women "non-men' at one of their conferences, and took seriously the statement from a man that he "Presented as male, but identified as female." It's the Schroedinger's activist: taking up his full masculine privilege in order to exert his right to being The.Most.Oppressed

Yuk.

So I'm interested in the possibility that the Greens are realising , at last, that you can't shove women out of the way and still claim to be saving the planet.

The Green Party as a whole are still sticking to their guns. As far as I am aware, this is a group of women attempting to change the party's policies from within.

Best news I've heard all week. Bless these women! This is what women need to do in all political parties, we outnumber them and we're right. All they have is threats.

Jackie Holyoake, you are brilliant, if you're on here.

Some of those comments are just...are these people mad?

I read the FB comments and have to say that the woman who is running the page displayed a lot of patience. In doing so she allowed the insanity to emerge

I agree. I think she did a really good job of keeping the focus on asking people not to be abusive. It showed up how much 'TRAs' can't make actual arguments, they can only name-call and resort to it quickly even when met with reason and patience.

Not on FB but the green party women Twitter account is wall to wall trans and NB inclusive and pro sex work. Is this any kind of policy or just a few lone voices?

GPW on FB is one I follow and I'm no longer on Twitter so can't comment but I do know that copy-cat accounts have been created and the issues have been raised within the party as I think to create one is against party rules.

Don't quote me but it's not as if we haven't seen this before. GPW on FB is about women and the abuse on that thread from official GP post holders is astonishing (and then they deny it is abuse), but then when you've got candidates using the T word (sounds like surf) so casually it's amazing to me that there are any women left in it at all, at least ones that are gender critical.