Radio 4 - 3.45 pm

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Short story thing. Of course, damn device has been playing up and trying to post for ages...

This was really wonderful. I might just have nominated it for PotW too . . .

Oh gosh. Just listened. How brilliant in itself, and that it was on the BBC.

I've nominated it - such a shock that this was on the BBC.

Another one who’s dh sent me a link saying ‘you’ll love this!’

Does anyone know if the text is available. Don't have access to iPlayer

its on BBC sounds, which doesn't need you to have a licence I think.

I clicked through on safari on my iPad and it played fine.

I love love love the point where the gender ideology claims that it wasn’t their bodies that made the first two women women, it was their identities.
Such an effective piece. We should post the transcript. Or ask the bbc to do so, if it’s copyrighted?

I've searched, but where is the link to this? (Kiwi as well)

Humble apologies.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000bs4f

Nice to wake up to.

Maybe the Beeb is starting to realise that we pay licence fees for Auntie, not Aunt Lydia.

Wonderful, thank you op, I would have missed this.
The image of a young man screaming in the face of women gathering to discuss women's rights in 2019
Some things never change, it seems.

One of the posters bears an image of a female mouth super glued shut

a lot of the protesters are men and Jo wonders why that is

Thank you for posting this link. What a superb piece. The fact the BBC is the forum suggests the media’s uncritical attitude to this issue is ending.....

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!

"The young Joan read widely, kept a diary, outdid the boys in writings and mathematics at school and pictured being a scholar or a lawyer, but degrees for women were rarely and grudgingly offered. It was illegal for a woman to enter the legal profession"

Of Joanna "She did not have a bank account because she did not have her own money"

"Femaleness and maleness have changed they say, although they don't explain when and how this happened, only that it has. It was never the bodies of Joan or Joanna that made them women, it was that they identified as women".

I've just listened, and cried. Utterly brilliant. There is no way this would have been broadcast a year ago. We still have a long way to go here but something is shifting.

Just amazing.

That was very well done.

Just got around to listening. Bloody Brilliant!

I read somewhere that it was commissioned.

The conversation itself is like a cursed book in a horror film - sums up the problem we have had. But this is helping to lift the curse.

Its on POTW now!!
Well done us!

On radio 4 now! Did anyone catch how Adrian Chiles introduced it?

:-)

Adrian Chiles likes it too!

Slight disappointment they chose a section which, whist powerful, was perhaps the 'easiest' and not remotely controversial.

Oh fuck, I was making the dinner whilst that was on and didn't listen I asked for it and all - thought they had sidelined it. So pleased it was on though.

Slight disappointment they chose a section which, whist powerful, was perhaps the 'easiest' and not remotely controversial. Sadly, that was inevitable, but it was all good so I am going to listen again whilst it is still there.

When is POW repeated?

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000c3g5

Pick of the week.

Also on POW, the idea that smoking made women feel free!!! "Why haven't we evolved better to see through these tricks of the trade" (probably a misinterpretation of evolution there)

Gaslighting with cigarette lighting there.

On radio 4 now! Did anyone catch how Adrian Chiles introduced it?

He said it “made a big impression” and read out a couple of listeners’ comments.