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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Radio 4 - 3.45 pm

104 replies

cwg1 · 29/11/2019 15:42

Short story thing. Of course, damn device has been playing up and trying to post for ages...

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Sidhefae · 29/11/2019 17:20

Caught it by accident on my drive home. I had to check that it was actually on R4 and having confirmed that it was I think I was open mouthed with astonishment for at least three miles. Came straight here when I got in to see if anything had been posted about it. Brilliant piece.

WineGummyBear · 29/11/2019 17:39

Caught it by accident and couldn't believe my ears.

Really really excellent.

SpringFan · 29/11/2019 17:42

ANyone fancy nominating it for pick of the week?

SpringFan · 29/11/2019 17:47

Sorry
I think the address is [email protected] if you wanted to

vaguelyoptimistic · 29/11/2019 17:49

I also caught this by accident. Great framing of the current debate "no debate" with no mention of transgender as such (as far as I remember) just gender identity. Hopefully people who aren't aware of the current situation may decide to look into things further and realise just what is at stake.

terryleather · 29/11/2019 17:50

Just listened to this. Bloody brilliant.

Knowing what they're like, I'm having to pinch myself that this was actually broadcast on the BBC.

Uncompromisingwoman · 29/11/2019 17:56

A lovely heartwarming start to the weekend. And on the BBC as well Shock

somebrightmorning · 29/11/2019 18:03

Well I'd better bloody give it a listen then, eh?

happydappy2 · 29/11/2019 18:06

Beautifully read & so true! Women have faced millennia of oppression because we are women-for men to now identify into this group is grotesque. Transwomen should accept that they are transwomen and leave women & their sex segregated spaces alone.

Whatisthisfuckery · 29/11/2019 18:11

Wow

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 29/11/2019 18:17

oh that was gorgeous. Thanks for posting here OP, I wouldn't have caught it otherwise. it made me well up. now THAT'S what I pay my bloody licence fee for.

have nominated it for pick the week, thanks for posting the email address.

TinaBarrow · 29/11/2019 18:18

I was glued to the radio. Couldn't believe my ears. Braced myself for something postmodern/queer to be the 2019 feminist experience... But it just kept hitting it out of the park. Superb writing and proper support for feminists having to keep on fighting battles that should have been won by now. The image of the male protestor's spit as he screamed into the face of the women attending the meeting...
Well done Hannah McGill Star

CriticalCondition · 29/11/2019 18:50

Wow.
That was so true it gave me goosebumps.

Cuntysnark · 29/11/2019 18:57

Utterly brilliant.

cwg1 · 29/11/2019 19:10

Yes - brilliant idea to nominate for Pick of the Week. Please do so.

Thank you to Hannah and narrator for a wonderful programme, and turned around in just five days - that's awesome!

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Nappyvalley15 · 29/11/2019 19:17

Absolutely bloody brilliant!

PencilsInSpace · 29/11/2019 19:17

I heard a trailer for this shortly before it was on and I switched the radio off because I thought it would be the usual BBC hatchet job.

I've just listened now and it was brilliant! Thank you Hannah McGill Flowers

I liked how she completely swerved past the 'third wave' sex pos libfems and focussed on the actual waves of actual proper feminism.

The ones with dangerous meetings.

Melroses · 29/11/2019 19:17

Shame about the now show though Hmm

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 29/11/2019 19:57

Well It's always a shame about The Now Show but what in particular?

nauticant · 29/11/2019 21:19

How it's wonderful how everything is about gender now rather than sex meaning we can all be pansexual. (No, don't ask me to explain what they're on about.)

Melroses · 29/11/2019 21:26

Well It's always a shame about The Now Show Well that is true. this was the wok comic turn in the middle of the general shoutiness.

How come pansexual is not pangendual? Confused

Melroses · 29/11/2019 21:27

woke, not wok Blush -

OldCrone · 29/11/2019 21:32

I caught the end of this when I put the radio on in the car. I couldn't believe my ears and I kept expecting it to revert to the usual BBC line. I'll listen to the whole thing later.

cwg1 · 29/11/2019 21:41

wok Grin

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Melroses · 29/11/2019 21:41

It is really worth listening to again. The last line was very moving.

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