Prisoner denied GRS - court case.

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I can't see any other post but a prisoner is suing the NHS as they were refused GRS.

This prisoner was convicted for having indecent images of children and for sexual activity with a young girl. They are now suing because of the distress that has been caused to them.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/28/transgender-paedophile-sues-nhs-refusing-reassignment-surgery/amp/

They are in prison for child sex offences and they think it acceptable to sue for their 'distress'. It looks like the tale is being seen as an attempt to get an easier ride away from a male prison which holds little back when it comes to children and prisoners.

I know this may not be a popular perspective but I'd like to see all pedophiles put to death. I don't care what sex they are, their sexual orientation, or what gender they claim to be. Through their actions they have at least in part destroyed or at least severely damaged any child or children they abused. Why should these people be given anything at all? In what way do they deserve dignity, care, or thought about their safety? Maybe they should have fucking thought of that before they touched a child.

While my position likely won't be widely held (many are against execution for any reason) but is the position I am entitled to based on the trauma my childhood experiences have caused me for the duration of my existence thus far. I don't need/have a responsibility to be nice I don't need to consider pedophile's feelings, their well-being, or anything about them. The moment I was touched was the moment that all pedophiles forfeited their humanity in my eyes i.e. they aren't human or animals to me they are garbage to be destroyed and discarded.

I was coerced/forced to speak lies to my abuser during the acts; I refuse to speak lies to make other people feel better at my expense.

Males are male regardless of how they present; regardless of the crime(s) they belong in male prisons and do not deserve to get any type of reconstructive or cosmetic or gender-affirming surgery on the public's dime.

You a male that wants to transition? Great, don't break the law by raping children or women and don't expect to be prioritized in healthcare for something that has been determined to not be a medical issue.

WIBU in supporting the need for surgery in this individual as long as removal of the penis is the first stage in transitioning?

It would be interesting if the treatment pathway started with that first.
It makes sense medically, from what I can tell - orchiectomy means less need for anti-androgens, the penis isn't reduced so the neovaginal canal is easier to construct, and the feminisation and/or breast augmentation can be done at a later date.

I don't agree that dysphoric people should be carved up and frankly I'd be much happier with them receiving psychiatric care in the same was as someone with BIID would be.

But it's interesting that so few men want their male genitals removed or altered, given that the surgery has been available for decades now.

It would also make detransitioning straightforward - the man would still look like a man at that point, he would just have altered genitals, which nobody would be able to see. So if he was unhappy after his transition, as many are, he could return to "living as a man" except obviously without his male genitals.

Is the obsession with hair and boobs more about exhibitionism? (Seeing as we mentioned a certain NUS flasher)

He lost. Update and share token courtesy of Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3775190-Paedophile-prisoner-loses-bid-to-get-gender-reassignment-surgery-on-NHS

Judgment here

www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2019/3565.html

Interesting comments from James Barrett and Stuart Lorimer in there. Apparently we don't all have ineffable gender identities from which clinical decisions should flow via informed consent. Er... sometimes. Oh, and apparently paraphilia can be an issue. I thought this was heresy?

Is this only the case after conviction, I ask myself?

Because that's odd, when I remember this study:

www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/gender-reassignment-5-years-of-referrals-in-oxfordshire/6B5F217162ABD9B3189F2EB82787034E

In which 2 of 38 male referrals for a gender identity service were gatekept out due to paedophilic motivations.

I'm trying to read the judgment but I am actually finding it a bit triggering in the modern sense of the word.
'she wants all interventions in order to feminise her body'
"She" wouldn't need - or get - any interventions in order to "feminise" "her" body, if "she" actually was a woman. This person is a man, a 'he' (which is used in some other paras, confusingly).
By all means give paedophiles meds to suppress testosterone if they want it, but this idiocy has to stop. Ffs, grown-ups sat around pondering whether they should give a paedophile a so-called neovagina.

grown-ups sat around pondering whether they should give a paedophile a so-called neovagina.
...a paedophile male. Whilst referring to him as 'she'.