Share your experiences of gender neutral toilets

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I went into my first gender neutral toilet this week and I have to say I wasn't impressed. As I walked in two young men stared at me as they were spraying water all around the sink area. As I was washing my hands a man came in and started undoing his trousers before he was in a cubicle. Ok not crimes of the century in either case but quite grim. Never experienced these things in a traditional woman's loo. I was the only woman in there so I felt very odd. Going to the loo at work used to be a nice 5 min break to collect my thoughts. Now it's stressful. Not impressed. Anyone else tried one of these new gender neutral toilets and if so what where your impressions?

I second that Got

Went to some unisex toilets at Royal Albert Hall, with both men and women queuing. They were fine, totally enclosed, and had sinks in them.

Mature student at university where there are several gender neutral toilets. All being head height cubicles with sinks in communal area. One in the student union is okay in the sense it's right next to the gents (says ladies is in first floor) and one time I went in there I only saw females.
But I now just avoid them and pick the toilets that are female only as I have a choice. Would only use them in an emergency (not that I am particularly scared or anything just no need to use them if I have other options)

Men are not going to be happy about having to queue are they

Queues will be longer for both men and women.

Men are not going to be happy about having to queue are they

Maybe they should be told to put up with it, like women so often are.

My experience of unisex toilet:

Went. Wee-d. Left.

Thing is in lots of circs if men see a queue they will take other options if they just need a pee.

Urinals had a purpose.

It will lead to more men pissing in Street etc.

Idea that they will quietly queue like women do, esp if been drinking, is ambitious to say the least.

We have them at our local garden centre, but I think they’ve done a good job. Each cubicle is floor to ceiling with a proper door and a sink and hand drier in each one - essentially they’re all self-contained little bathrooms. They’re also cleaned frequently so aren’t left disgusting.

We had the same setup at my last workplace, which was too small to justify separate men’s and women’s toilets. We did have a phantom shitter there, but this was dealt with some sternly worded emails from HR - evidently the culprit (while never identified) was shamed into changing their ways (and frankly it could have been a woman as easily as a man anyway).

Done like that, I have no real issues with this as a concept, it’s when they’re done on the cheap, without proper facilities and without enough cleaning, that they don’t work. If they’re going to be a thing, there should be a requirement for them to be done right, whether through building regs or whatever. No skimping, no flimsy cubicles, and individual sinks for each one should be required.

I have breast cancer and am undergoing chemotherapy. While on treatment if you need the loo you have to drag a drip trolley into a unisex toilet. It's very awkward and getting your clothing down and out of the way to use the toilet is made more difficult because I have a tube attached to my hand.
Last week I went in and sat down. It felt wet. I hadn't checked the cleanliness of the seat before I sat. When I stood up I realised that some man who had been in there before me had left the seat up, weed all over the place and I had sat on the filthy toilet rim. .
It was impossible for me to get washed until I got home four hours later.
I now take disinfectant wipes with me........

I went into one at a university. The toilets were all floor to ceiling cubicles.The sinks were on a wall of glass, basically a wall was a window. You could see into the toilets from the corridor, through the wall of glass. It was a brilliant idea to me. I didn't feel like I was in enclosed space with men, because it felt open. The men were all perfectly fine, no horror stories. Didn't bother me at all. Not sure how I would feel about an enclosed space though.

On another note, last night I was somewhere where the queue for the women's had about 20in it and the men's were empty...all I heard was women moaning and saying the women should just using the mens. So clearly some women in the real world don't feel odd about this.

And did the women use the men's?

I admit to doing occasionally as a teen in pubs,

The solution though is to provide adequate, suitable provision for both sexes,

Not to rip all the urinals out, make men queue, women's queues longer, and women and girls have to share with men.

I went to the ones at a national trust site. Frensham ponds. They are recently refurbished. It was fine but i was with a group. I wouldnt have gone alone as its not in view of the cafe staff. It was odd coming out the cubiicle to find a man. He looked more uncomfortable than me and said 'not keen on this set up' he was an older gentlemanly type who then seemed unsure if ladies first applied to toilet queing. Ive also done them at a big event with banks of portaloos and it was fine. It actually made less queues for women and men had to queue for a change.

Piss on the seat, every time

“.The sinks were on a wall of glass, basically a wall was a window. ”

Lovely for rinsing a mooncup then...

Here's a glorious example from Charleston House in East Sussex. Presumably if an 8 year old girl walked in there while an unknown man was urinating, he could potentially be charged with indecent exposure?

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7701673/Social-media-users-outraged-gender-neutral-toilets.html

'Presumably if an 8 year old girl walked in there while an unknown man was urinating, he could potentially be charged with indecent exposure?'

More likely the parents would be the ones in trouble in that scenario I think?

Why would the parents be in trouble? It's quite normal for kids to go to the loo by themselves from that sort of age.

And the man wouldn't be in trouble either obviously. He was using the correct facilities in a standard way.

As the activists say, get over it. And if you don't like it, that's your problem.

A favourite relaxed brunch place now has gender neutral toilets. Nothing too problematic except the three times I have been there in the last three months:

1. The father of a baby used the formally female toilet to change a nappy. Fine except he left the nappy in the sink rather than put it in the bin. Why?

1. Day of the rugby world cup final in Japan. A group of men had been drinking and watching TV since 9.00am. It was 1.30pm and I had no desire to investigate the state of the toilets.

1. Quiet lunchtime. All fine except the loo seat was left up. I dont like handling loo seats in public toilets.

So just a small erosion of my right to access a single sex space. But an erosion nonetheless. 5000 people have GRCs. Why do they get priority.

2.5K comments on the Mail article. Some very good ones. Even if the wokerati don't get it, ordinary people do. And we are the ones who actually visit historic homes, etc.

Charleston Trust responded to criticism online by tweeting: 'At Charleston we are committed to creating safe, welcoming and inclusive spaces for all our visitors and staff.

They lie. This excludes females, 50 percent of the population.

This is a big "Fuck You" to those of us without penises.

Last time I was in the Cliffs of Moher visitor centre (maybe 2018), they seemed to have just taken down the wall between the ladies and gents toilets, to make them gender neutral. The toilets stank. The men used the cubicles without closing the doors, even though there was a queue of women and men present.

Vile.

Someone in the Daily Mail comments is suggesting carrying a small bag of cement around to chuck down every such toilet one comes across.

Having to walk past men with their cocks out at a urinal is grim. Anyone who thinks it's appropriate for little girls wanting to visit a historical site to have to have an impromptu anatomy lesson needs a good kick up the arse with hobnail boots on.

A local bar which has always had shared toilets, due to lack of room I think. Stinks of piss and puddles on the floor. I've not had any other issues but would prefer women only loos, particularly ones which children will be using.