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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Good luck Harry The Owl

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/11/2019 08:45

Court case today.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop

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LangCleg · 20/11/2019 11:24

What does polemicism mean?

Polemic is strongly worded speech or writing about someone or something.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 20/11/2019 11:25

Thank you Lang

BoneAppleTeaa · 20/11/2019 11:25

I’m trying to keep up with the twitter thread but it’s very fast paced, they’re doing a great job of relaying it!

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/11/2019 11:25

Do we know how long this case is likely to go on for and when judgement can be expected?

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tooyoungat40 · 20/11/2019 11:26

Sorry to be dim, but who is the complainant?

TimeLady · 20/11/2019 11:27

Glad to see the judge reads The Times. Might means he's well aware of the ins and outs of the debate already.

HavelockVetinari · 20/11/2019 11:28

Will it still be on tomorrow? If so I'll pop down there myself!

nauticant · 20/11/2019 11:29

As I understand it tooyoungat40 the "complainant" is the person who made the complaint to the Police about Harry Miller.

BovaryX · 20/11/2019 11:30

The test is, in plain English - "in the eye of the beholder". For all other crime or recordable incident, the test is "in the eye of a reasonable person”

Thank you Lang. That’s a very interesting distinction. It does if course raise the question what if the ‘beholder’ is an unreasonable person?

tooyoungat40 · 20/11/2019 11:30

Do we know who that might be, or is it not known public (I have no idea how these things work)

Michelleoftheresistance · 20/11/2019 11:30

If no one is allowed to post anything on line unless it constructively contributes to a debate, the police are going to have to abandon all other duties. And presumably sit in pubs and other public places to police everyone's conversations at all times to be appropriate, polite and constructive only?

The punitive desire behind the reporting is being made plainly apparent, which is a good thing. It is not enough to remove what has been said, the sayer must be punished.

Datun · 20/11/2019 11:30

The judge has noted that the complainant didn't even see the tweets themself. They were alerted to them by someone else. The judge is getting it.

tooyoungat40 · 20/11/2019 11:30

And thanks nauticant

CaveMum · 20/11/2019 11:31

I feel like I’m watching someone (in this case the Judge) peak-trans in real time!

FloralBunting · 20/11/2019 11:32

Perhaps a new internet wide set of guidelines about only commenting if you're 'civil' would be helpful?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 20/11/2019 11:33

The judge is basically saying "WTF?" in legalese.

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/11/2019 11:33

Who is this eminently sensible-sounding judge?

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 20/11/2019 11:33

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Sorry, that can't happen yet can it (hate incident disclosed in DBS)? Or is this something being discussed generally? Ta muchly Smile

That Nazir chap though ...! With this and Maya's case it feels like we're on the brink of something big either way. I'm just praying the outcome prevails on the side of common bloody sense.

Good Luck Harry!

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 20/11/2019 11:35

Judge - it starts with the title doesn't it? 'Crime Report'

This judge totally gets it.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 20/11/2019 11:36

All this over something which isn't a crime.

CriticalCondition · 20/11/2019 11:36

Yup. Words matter.

FloralBunting · 20/11/2019 11:37

Bloody hell I'm enjoying this. The Judge laughed. At it being called a Crime Report. Fab.

AutumnCrow · 20/11/2019 11:37

I think the complainant is anonymous?

theflushedzebra · 20/11/2019 11:39

I feel like I’m watching someone (in this case the Judge) peak-trans in real time!

Grin

Like in Maria Mac's case someone tweeted "the defence counsel, who I think peak-trans'd during the questioning...."

Sunlight! This has to go Harry's way - the law and policing has to be, and be seen as reasonable. Harry's tweets should never have warranted police involvement.

tooyoungat40 · 20/11/2019 11:39

ah, I see. Thanks AutumnCrow

Adds fact to fact base alongside stuff about intersex conditions and the legalese behind having a belief