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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Defence lawyer says that the Gender Recognition Act has placed the State in an impossible position with regard to transgender prisoners

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stumbledin · 18/11/2019 00:39

This is about the situation in Ireland but thought I would post as it is interesting that some law practitioners are looking at the illogical situation in terms of legal rights. (There was an earlier thread about lawyers in Australia? New Zealand? questioning the right of clinic to start children on puberty blockers.)

^The law is challenging for the courts and the IPS since there is, potentially, a safety issue for women inmates housed alongside a male-bodied prisoner.

Currently, a pre-operative, pre-hormone therapy, male-to-female transgender prisoner is being held in Limerick women’s prison.

This is understood to be the first time that an inmate, registered as male at birth, has been housed in a women’s prison in Ireland.

When before the court last July, the prisoner was in possession of a gender recognition certificate.

It is understood that the prisoner was assigned a high level of monitoring after being convicted of ten counts of sexual assault and one count of cruelty against a child.

The prisoner is accompanied by two officers at all times while in the common areas of the detention facility.^

www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/male-bodied-transgender-inmate-housed-with-women-prisoners/

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/11/2019 11:54

Irish penal reform trust:Out on the inside, lgbt people in prison.

www.iprt.ie/iprt-in-the-news/round-up-out-on-the-inside-lgbt-people-in-prison/

CranberriesChoccy · 18/11/2019 12:29

The same story appears in the Mirror, only they conveniently omitted the 10 counts of sexual assault and child cruelty. Quelle surprise.

BickerinBrattle · 18/11/2019 15:32

YY Barracker on the which fools do the rubber-stamping comment. Because Maya is right.

DuMondeB · 18/11/2019 16:25

It might be a small number of people, but if they all need two guards 24/7 they are going to cost the prison service an absolute fucking fortune (especially when you consider that women in prison are generally pretty well behaved and don’t need extreme security measures, unlike men).

Dilkhush · 18/11/2019 22:20

In the past men have gone to the lengths of training as teachers, priests, doctors, setting up entire charities all so they can gain access to women and children and abuse them. Yet somehow it is unthinkable that the same sort of men would go through all the hassle of filling in a form for the same purpose?

@arnoldshatshisknickers This is the best skewering of the whole debacle I have ever read.

ChattyLion · 18/11/2019 22:40

I’m really pleased that these questions are being asked in public. It’s all so naïvely put together as a legal fiction and leaves women in an untenable situation. I almost wrote that it ‘has so many unintended consequences’ there- but actually it can only be pure thoughtlessness on the part of the powers that be, and pure misogynistic intent to continue to ignore the risks to women of men encroaching on their spaces, services, sports, prisons, hospital wards, everywhere. They know that women object.

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