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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Help! Evidence required re correspondence with a Green

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midcenturylegs · 14/11/2019 20:17

He has stated "I do not agree with restricting toilets and changing rooms to biological females only. I have yet to encounter any tangible evidence of any harm caused by law abiding pre-operational trans women using female bathrooms. Enforcing a biological women only rule would be hugely intrusive for all women, causing real harm."

Can anyone please provide links etc. We are chatting via DM

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Chiochan · 16/11/2019 16:49

I have it on good information that the Green candidate in Westminster is the very same guy who a few years ago was advertising that he could enhance womens breast sizes through guided meditation or massage or some other such crap. Apparently he advertised it in the paper!
Maybe your friend can was lyrical on that? why seeing as he is so knowledgable and all.

MIdgebabe · 16/11/2019 16:55

So for him the distress for a trans person being turned away beats the distress of a women turning themselves away?

More practically,Perhaps you could suggest instead that facilities were provided for transpeople specifically to avoid the distress to all? Could he explain why that wouldn't be best all round? Surely it would be better for transpeople to turn to people who really understand their situation, which I suspect has more complex layers than standard Male on female abuse?

Definitelyrandom · 16/11/2019 19:44

Thanks theflushedzebra !

merrymouse · 16/11/2019 19:52

I have yet to encounter any tangible evidence of any harm caused by law abiding pre-operational trans women using female bathrooms.

The problem is not law abiding pre-operational trans women, it is non-law abiding men.

merrymouse · 16/11/2019 19:53

And if he is one of those people who says "men will always find a way to harm women", ask him if he locks his front door.

PencilsInSpace · 16/11/2019 19:56

This was the Green party in 2017:

www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/04/28/election-green-party-calls-for-trans-youth-to-have-right-to-change-gender-without-parental-consent/

(apols for the prick news link)

PencilsInSpace · 16/11/2019 20:01

The Green party treated Olivia Palmer like shit

perspicats.wordpress.com/2018/05/11/the-genderquake-debate-fiasco-and-the-mccarthyism-that-followed/

PencilsInSpace · 16/11/2019 20:12

The Green Party treated Andy Healey like shit with the help of Aimee and David Challenor:

twitter.com/djandyhealey/status/1033668245511917568

LumpySpacedPrincess · 16/11/2019 20:27

So he wants women and girls existing sex based rights and protections removed? He wants safeguarding to be lowered? Why? What other groups protections will his party remove at a whim? Why does he want girls to be excluded from their spaces?

Get HIM to defend HIS position.

TheBullshitGoesOn · 16/11/2019 22:24

It is clear that he (and others aggressively pushing this agenda) don't actually believe that TWAW. Because if they did, they wouldn't give a shit about them. Just as they don't give a shit about women generally.

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