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Maya Forstater court case

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Bardonnay · 14/11/2019 06:14

Sorry to link to the DM but they've covered Maya Forstater's upcoming court case here:
https://mol.im/a/7683207.

Maya's account of events is here and her post links to updates about the case: https://medium.com/@MForstater/i-lost-my-job-for-speaking-up-about-womens-rights-2af2186ae84

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GrinitchSpinach · 18/11/2019 15:25

Wow, Pygmy, what an exchange! Sunlight, sunlight, sunlight...

PygmyHippoBob · 18/11/2019 15:27

Anya: you think reform of the GRA doesn’t affect women’s rights.
Clair: no, no adverse impact on women’s rights. It extends women’s rights because transwomen can get a GRC

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 15:27

Why shouldn’t a woman hand out leaflets where she lives?
Clair: goes off on a speech I live with violence against trans people every day, ciswomen...

So completely unable to answer basic and direct questions.

Waterl00 · 18/11/2019 15:28

Another drama llama.

Whatisthisfuckery · 18/11/2019 15:29

Reference to womens’ rights and safety = threats of violence?

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 15:29

Anya: where in leaflets is the threat of violence to trans people?
Clair: reference to women’s rights and safety.
Anya: leaflets just point out removing sex protections will threaten women. Do you accept women have the right to campaign on GRA? Or should they shut up and roll over?
Clair: misinformation about GRA reform motivated by transphobic bigotry.

Gosh this is so revealing. Nothing we didn't know but possibly some of the audience are hearing this at source for the first time.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 18/11/2019 15:31

They are saying this on record in court....

Kantastic · 18/11/2019 15:33

Anya: who are calling cis?
Clair: you
Anya: I though we weren’t supposed to assume anyone’s gender.
Judge: don’t assume gender. Also not personal to counsel.

wait I thought Clair was a barrister or am I confused? He - she? - they? sorry I don't know which is right - sounds wildly unprofessional.

PygmyHippoBob · 18/11/2019 15:33

Anya: do you accept in order to look at your pinned tweet (re non-binary gif) Maya would have to look at your page. Do you accept Maya not as interested in you as you are in yourself?

MrsSnippyPants · 18/11/2019 15:35

"Anya: do you accept in order to look at your pinned tweet (re non-binary gif) Maya would have to look at your page. Do you accept Maya not as interested in you as you are in yourself?"

BURN!!

BovaryX · 18/11/2019 15:36

Do you accept Maya not as interested in you as you are in yourself?

Grin
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/11/2019 15:36

Am greatly appreciating your posts, Pygmy. Many thanks Flowers

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 18/11/2019 15:37

I bet Clair didn't like that!

CriticalCondition · 18/11/2019 15:37

Pygmy, you are making my afternoon. Flowers

GrinitchSpinach · 18/11/2019 15:38

Anya Palmer, an honest-to-goodness LEGEND. Grin

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 18/11/2019 15:38

Pygmy, anther post of thanks.

Cuntysnark · 18/11/2019 15:39

It’s keeping us very amused on what would otherwise be a fairly tedious car journey. Thank you Pygmy.

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 15:39

Anya: do you accept in order to look at your pinned tweet (re non-binary gif) Maya would have to look at your page. Do you accept Maya not as interested in you as you are in yourself?

HA HA HA HA

NonnyMouse1337 · 18/11/2019 15:40

Do you accept Maya not as interested in you as you are in yourself?

Ouch! Hahaha Halloween Grin

PygmyHippoBob · 18/11/2019 15:41

Anya: you believe Maya was bullying you by hosting a twitter discussion about Pips Bunce and manels that you think was actually about you.
Clair: Maya’s intention irrelevant, there is still an impact on me, whether or not she intended it as bullying

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 15:42

Does anyone else have a sneaking suspicion Anya is enjoying her day at work today? Grin

BovaryX · 18/11/2019 15:42

Yes Pygmy thank you for these updates. It’s riveting stuff and Anya is rapier sharp!

PygmyHippoBob · 18/11/2019 15:43

Anya: you think Maya should not be allowed to express her beliefs and keep her job because her beliefs upset you

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 18/11/2019 15:44

Maya’s intention irrelevant, there is still an impact on me, whether or not she intended it as bullying

This sums up everything about the TRA narrative doesn't it.
I think it's about me, you've not included me, you've not prioritized me.

BovaryX · 18/11/2019 15:44

This is the core question