Agreed. I think it proves how restricted the debate has been, @mcduffy, and shows that really it's the blue haired brigade who are the ones in an echo chamber, not us.
Full credit to Mumsnet HQ for continuing the debate on here, I know the talk guidelines are frustrating a lot of the time but there's few other places where we can even say this much. I wouldn't know anything about this issue if it weren't for Mumsnet. It's why the TRAs hate this site so much.