Jenni Russell article in The Times: Politicians are betraying women in the rush to support trans rights

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Thank you, Jenni.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/politicians-are-betraying-women-in-the-rush-to-support-trans-rights-xzvhcf7m8?shareToken=64642eb10844a4086ebeb30b012fb564

That's a very good article, this is exactly how I feel about Self-ID, thank you Jenni.

midcenturylegs that federalist article is interesting. Very comprehensive.

Noted this in particular
“In February 2017, Apple, Microsoft, Google, IBM, Yelp, PayPal, and 53 other mostly tech corporations signed onto an amicus brief pushing the U.S. Supreme Court to prohibit schools from keeping private facilities for students designated according to sex.”

The whole question as to why a civil rights movement related to a tiny minority is getting such massive political support, simply goes back to it being favourable for rich people to make more money.

Florence is now up to 831 responses! Is this a Times record? I’d like to post this comment to the Times but as they’re still not publishing any comments on this article there’s no point in trying to do that.

The article is a superb piece of writing. She absolutely nails it

Great article Jenni 👍👏

People are starting to talk about it under Janice Turner's article:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/perfectionist-mums-wont-settle-for-family-snaps-zqvxhmnch?shareToken=39cdfcabf2121c38bb326b0dd67423c3

53 comments now

Yes but they seem to jump from 16 hours ago to one hour ago - mine was about five hours ago

There is an equal tension within the trans rights movement between those who have genuine gender dysphoria and wish to live as the opposite sex and those activists who are using the cover of trans rights and self-ID to intimidate, taunt, assault and access women in vulnerable spaces.

And good luck ever distinguishing between the two. Ever, ever, ever.

Because, guess what, no-one can live as the opposite sex. Not even those men who really, really want to, and for whom it is a continual source of distress. No-one.

What does living as a man/woman even mean? Nobody has ever been able to explain that.

Fantastic article. Pulls no punches.

Can anyone screenshot or c&p Florence's post?

Don't worry, I've seen it now. All the comments are coming through and still lots of people still commenting by the looks of it. Couple of TRAs but overwhelmingly comments are supportive of the article and her position.

I have gone out and bought today's Times and will be sending a hard photocopy of this article to each of the candidates in my constituency.
My MP seems to like snailmail and sent me a letter the day the election campaign started setting out her position on Brexit.
This article is so good and expresses my feelings so perfectly. I would have voted Lib Dem because of Brexit but they have lost my vote over this issue. This is the deciding factor for me now.

I was reading the comments but I can't even see any now.

I've emailed the article to my mp. He's Tory and not exactly progressive. I've never votes Tory in my life but will do it holding my nose if he tells me he supports women's rights.

Actually, this is a potentially massive vote winner for the Tories. Blue haired TRAs and the woke brigade are never going to vote for them anyway. But they could pick up a lot of votes by standing up for women.

Where do you see if your comment is pending approval? Mine is still not there ...

According to the Times today, Mermaids has received over £715k this year.
£522.658 in donations and legacies.
HBomberGuy, a you tube star donated £25k.

Mermaids sickens me.

Sorry, £522,688.

Just had another look at the article. The comments are really heartening with a massive number of men commenting as well - often with clear insight into the issues.
They also seem to have stopped pre moderating the comments.

Have just emailed this to the Lib Dems, who recently sent me something suggestig I vote for them. Might email it to the other local candidates, actually.

• by 'this', I mean the Times article.

I just looked 551 comments and another 5 in active progress. Wow! Too many to read now, as I need to go to bed, but a phenomenal response.