Frack's reference post

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Hi All
I have been asked in various threads for references. I am starting a new thread as I've lost track of all the conversations. I wasn't going to bother as people usually don't want to read them but since one or two have said they really do want to read them with an open mind, here are a few.

Reidar Schei Jessen & Katrina Roen (2019) Balancing in the margins
of gender: exploring psychologists’ meaning-making in their work with gender non- conforming youth seeking puberty suppression, Psychology & Sexuality, 10:2, 119-131, DOI: 10.1080/19419899.2019.1568290

ABSTRACT
The past 15 years have seen the growth of puberty suppression as the prevailing approach to supporting gender non-conforming children and youth. Puberty suppression is considered to provide time for weighing up the pros and cons of medical transition. Research based on binary under- standings of gender has demonstrated that a carefully selected group of gender non-conforming youth benefit from physical treatment and gender transition, but the research that details how psychologists can best support young people during this time is limited. This is the gap addressed by the current research. The purpose of the present study is to explore the meaning-making framework within which some clinical psychologists and gender non-conforming youth approach discussions of puberty suppression. Five semi-structured interviews were conducted with clinical psychologists working with gender non-conforming youth. The data were analysed using thematic analysis. The results indicate that there is pressure on gender non- conforming youth, often coming from families, friends and mass media, to buy into heteronormative and binary discourses regarding gender and what constitutes a good life. The results also indicate that the participants deploy affirmative and exploratory therapeutic strategies in their work, in order to enable gender non-conforming youth to make informed decisions regarding puberty suppression. Participants emphasized the importance of therapeutic approaches that explore non-binary gender discourses, alongside the use of puberty suppression and other medical interventions that enable clients to fit more with gender norms. The therapeutic balance between affirmation and exploration may shed light on how both research within the binary tradition and critics of binary assumptions are in danger of oversimplifying the process of gender identity development. This research highlights the importance of understanding the complex negotiation of gender discourses that are in tension with one another.

Janes we need a Thread like the trans widows escape committee.

Trans parents escape commitee.
Who is in?

Me, for sure. Start it and I'll post.

Tinsel Angel wrote

Telling ROGD parents that it isn't a robust phenomenon, reminds me of all the people who tell trans widows that AGP doesn't exist.

Tinsel is so correct. We are the unbelieved. We, parents, now need to speak out, We need to tell the world our story. We are all out there just like the trans widows. No one wants to believe us, the people with first hand experience. They reject this as it does not suit their cause. However the trans widows and the detranstioners are speaking out. It is now time for parents who are sceptical to share their voice

Trans Parents Escape committee.
Is this a good name?
Anyone else want to comment on a name that reffects parents who are scepitical.
Janes will post a Thread tomorrow and get a name sorted. I bet you mumsnet wii delete it though especially as the weekend Moderators are known to go Zap crazy

Parents of Transitioners?

I thought I posted a reply but it’s not there. Anyway I think we, parents , need to use ROGD in the title as this will help parents like me to discuss this phenomenon.

ROGD Sceptical Parents Society?

Do all the mums of ROGD kids here know about 4th Wave Now? Not a substitute for a support thread here but an extra resource maybe.

Yep it was my first place to look. Then Transgender Trend followed by Gender Critical Dad who led me to an amazing gender critical support website that was predominantly USA. I have yet to see a Uk equivalent. Maybe the time is right for me as I need more local support.

I like the ROGD Sceptical Parents Society. But maybe ROGD Parents Society might be better.?

same path iamright17

Idk re name: ROGD Parent Support ?

Perfect. That’s what it is. Support.

How wonderful if that is what comes out of this thread

Well we can thank Frecker for this if nothing else

Definitely not the result Frack had in mind, but a better one!

Good result, will go and look. Hope I never have to be in that position (young adult ASD DD here, watching and worrying)

Do the mothers of ROGD kids want those of us not in that position on that thread or would you prefer to keep it for those directly impacted only?

Just wanted to add that when I first 'lost' my husband to the delusional madness, GenderCriticalDad was really supportive to me by email, plus recommended: youthtranscriticalprofessionals.org/ - I think you have to sign up, but might be relevant.

I am happy for comments. All support is great. It also might be someone in your wider circle that is experiencing this and it is important that people see how much our kids are being railroaded by so called ‘caring’ institutions who should be supporting them through turbulent adolescent development. There is no justification for not examining the root cause. Also, we are now being told maturity is not gained until age 25. Why are the gender clinics ignoring this? Parents are being offered conflicting information and told this and that. No one wants to listen to the parent’s voice. The voice that knows their own child and who knows that there is something underlying going on when a child does like who they are.