Frack's reference post

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Hi All
I have been asked in various threads for references. I am starting a new thread as I've lost track of all the conversations. I wasn't going to bother as people usually don't want to read them but since one or two have said they really do want to read them with an open mind, here are a few.

Reidar Schei Jessen & Katrina Roen (2019) Balancing in the margins
of gender: exploring psychologists’ meaning-making in their work with gender non- conforming youth seeking puberty suppression, Psychology & Sexuality, 10:2, 119-131, DOI: 10.1080/19419899.2019.1568290

ABSTRACT
The past 15 years have seen the growth of puberty suppression as the prevailing approach to supporting gender non-conforming children and youth. Puberty suppression is considered to provide time for weighing up the pros and cons of medical transition. Research based on binary under- standings of gender has demonstrated that a carefully selected group of gender non-conforming youth benefit from physical treatment and gender transition, but the research that details how psychologists can best support young people during this time is limited. This is the gap addressed by the current research. The purpose of the present study is to explore the meaning-making framework within which some clinical psychologists and gender non-conforming youth approach discussions of puberty suppression. Five semi-structured interviews were conducted with clinical psychologists working with gender non-conforming youth. The data were analysed using thematic analysis. The results indicate that there is pressure on gender non- conforming youth, often coming from families, friends and mass media, to buy into heteronormative and binary discourses regarding gender and what constitutes a good life. The results also indicate that the participants deploy affirmative and exploratory therapeutic strategies in their work, in order to enable gender non-conforming youth to make informed decisions regarding puberty suppression. Participants emphasized the importance of therapeutic approaches that explore non-binary gender discourses, alongside the use of puberty suppression and other medical interventions that enable clients to fit more with gender norms. The therapeutic balance between affirmation and exploration may shed light on how both research within the binary tradition and critics of binary assumptions are in danger of oversimplifying the process of gender identity development. This research highlights the importance of understanding the complex negotiation of gender discourses that are in tension with one another.

Exactly how common is paedophilia??

Hard to measure exactly for obvious reasons, but most researchers reckon about 1 in 30 men have the desire whether or not they act on it. About the same for men and that three letter acronym we're not allowed to mention.

It seems like every other man is a fucking paedophile. What the fuck is wrong with them.

It really is one of those revelations that has you side eyeing a whole lot of people, isn't it?

Ditto TheProdigalKittensReturn. It wasn't a secret although it was glossed as Foucault pushing boundaries and challenging bourgeois states of being ... bhah de blah.

Perhaps we just went to better universities. And yeah, I wasn't buying the making jazz hands at authority arguments back then either.

Statistics from the National Crime Agency (NCA) show that last year 2.88 million accounts were registered globally across the most harmful child sexual abuse dark web sites, with at least 5% believed to be registered in the UK

In the UK alone, it is estimated there are 80,000 people who present a sexual threat to children online.

That's 140,000 Britons (you'd never guess the sex of almost all of them) going to the effort of finding the dark web, seeking out child abuse websites, and downloading and distributing images and videos of child abuse. And at least 80,000 making efforts to find children online in order to groom and abuse them on and offline.

homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/11/05/factsheet-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse/

Bloody hell. And how many of those are in positions of power, I wonder?

Foucault is acknowledged as the grandfather of Queer Theory, and he was quite evidently A-OK with adults using children for sex

I think using people without any consideration with regard to power dynamics (or indeed feelings) is intrinsic in both Post Modernism and Queer Theory - everything is a transaction

Hence Queer Theory idealogues apparent appetite for using children in their self appointed quest to 'queer' any and all social boundaries

(sorry Lang, I know you feel this is a derail, but I think it may help readers to understand where Frack and by extension the Queer Theory establishment, are coming from).

So frack rates someone who is a paedophile, to the point where her own children can't bear to hear his name. But goes off alarming when people talk about the damage done to children like Jazz Jennings in the pursuit of being more 'masculine or feminine'?

I'm with jane above.

How can one's sensibilities be damaged over a real-life situation that one can't bear to listen to, whilst simultaneously hanging on the every word of a fucking paedophile?

sorry Lang, I know you feel this is a derail, but I think it may help readers to understand where Frack and by extension the Queer Theory establishment, are coming from.

Darling, I don't think it is a derail at all; I think it highly germane. I also think that rules are very easily twisted for strike purposes and some people take advantage of that knowing that MNHQ is in denial about GFery (sorry, MNHQ, but you are). Not that this is directed at any individual in particular, on or off this thread, of course.

Bloody hell. And how many of those are in positions of power, I wonder?

Thought this needed highlighting.
I won't rant as I don't want the thread deleted, but my views on what type of person is behind all this are well known.

It's not easy to understand that the more desperate people are, the easier it is to control them.
And the more power you have, the easier it is to get away with it, on a massive scale.

Bloody hell. And how many of those are in positions of power, I wonder?

It's obviously a well organised and mutually supportive thing.

So children's charities, safeguarding organisations, lawmakers, they will all be relentlessly and continuously targeted for infiltration.

It must be a piece of piss, to be honest.

Wow, Frack, for such a Faulcault fangirl you seem grossly ignorant of his burning desire to make French children fair game for nonces.

Frack's gone a bit quiet hasn't she?

she's probably busy talking to her family about Foucault

I feel like subjecting your children to postmodernist babble should count as cruel and unusual punishment.

Heh, bad enough inflicting it on adults never mind children.

I have very little tolerance for 'intellectual' waffle. There is a class of person who seems to think it makes them sound clever when in reality it is meaningless drivel and they are just taking advantage of the fact that many people lack the confidence to call them on their horse shit.

Well said, Arnold.

Blooming heck, Frack, I’ve witnessed a fair few arse-handings on here, but this one is weapons-grade.

Nobody would mind if you admitted you’re way out of your depth, you know. There’d be a kind of nobility to it.

I’d say Frack might disappear for a while, but a poster with a very similar writing style will ‘eventually’ pop up to educate us all.

so I'm not sure what's wrong with Frack's uni that this is apparently new information to her.

Queer theory cheerleading with very limited critical thinking appears to be what's wrong with it.

I’d say Frack might disappear for a while, but a poster with a very similar writing style will ‘eventually’ pop up to educate us all.

It could go the other way, Frac came here expecting to be smarter than a bunch of bigots, not really having a clue what she was supporting but she knows it has to be good, because she is smart and surrounded by smart people... waving this and that around, making multiple threads to try and send people in circles, as it has worked at uni.

but slowly they realise, because for the first time ever people have said, "No, it's actually like this, look", that they were supporting something horrific.
Frac realises for the first time that she doesn't understand what she is preaching because it doesn't make sense and vanishes but lurks.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time.

I went to University in the late 80s as a mature student.(was in my late 20s) read an science/engineering degree, very male dominated environment. Thank fuck there was nothing like this going on then. The women's toilets, changing rooms etc were for XX, the men's for XY. God knows I had sexism to deal with all the time, but at least it was straightforward patriarchal misogenistic sexism.
I suspect I'd not get on well in today's University woke attitudes, what with me knowing sex is genetic and immutable and can't be changed (due to aforesaid scientific training, oddly enough!)
I glad I'm now retired and no longer an academic, as I also suspect my GC opinions wouldn't go down well in the SCR!

Bluddy hell - that one in five statistic on the Whittle video!

You made it to the end Melroses!

Yes it's awful isn't it? Only one in five trans people who have had a vaginoplasty are still able to have an orgasm.

I'm assuming that figure is for all ages in this group, most of whom will have transitioned as adults, when they already had mature genital tissue to work with. Those who were given puberty blocking drugs as children don't even have that advantage.

Foucault also welcomed the return of the Ayatollahs to rule Iran, something that sent the situation of women back to the middle ages. I bet Frack isn't aware of that, even though he's her hero:

www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/007863.html

"between men and women there will not be inequality with respect to rights, but difference, since there is a natural difference."

Women get jailed in Iran for speaking up for their rights, Frack, but your hero supported the men who oppressed them. Do you think there was a little hint of "colonialism" in his support?

www.hrw.org/news/2015/10/28/womens-rights-iran

Or maybe it was just common or garden misogyny, a word you don't appear to be able to use, Frack.

Another way of saying it is "woman-hating".