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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lib Dems actively deterring GC women

694 replies

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 07/11/2019 13:48

Today I emailed the Lib Dems expressing an interest in joining their party.

I stated no one should receive discrimination or abuse for their transgender status but explained that I am GC and I asked if there was room for GC women in the party.

I received the following response:
Thank you for getting in touch. Whilst we appreciate your interest in joining, you should be aware that the Liberal Democrats are a trans inclusive party, and we have made it clear that we fully behind trans communities. As liberals we champion everyone’s right to live the life they want. By the sounds of your email it appears that your values are not aligned with ours so we are probably not the right the party for you.

I am flabbergasted. I didn't expect that I would have to believe that humans can change biological sex in order to be a member of the Lib Dems.

I am so disappointed. I was going to vote for them in the GE (passionate Remainer) but I cannot if this is their response.

There is no one to vote for. I am lost.

Lib Dems actively deterring GC women
Lib Dems actively deterring GC women
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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 07/11/2019 15:06

Loopy absolutely I agree. The tone and arrogance of the letter pisses me off however and the audacity to place the needs of biological women below men in writing is staggering.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 07/11/2019 15:07

Filthy we're fucked regardless, aren't we?! Angry

0hforfoxsake · 07/11/2019 15:10

Idiots.
All us GC women want everyone to live their lives, just not by compromising the rights and safety of women.

Why do people find this so hard to grasp?

Herocomplex · 07/11/2019 15:12

So Tim Farron can lead the party whilst believing that homosexuality is against the teaching of god, but someone who believes that people cannot change biological sex is not welcome to join.
Very liberal.

nibdedibble · 07/11/2019 15:14

No party, no business can be involving themselves in anything that can be spun badly on social media, and they probably don't want members who are going to expose them to that risk.

Herocomplex · 07/11/2019 15:19

I wonder if someone might let Janice Turner or Suzanne Moore know. Deborah Orr would have had something to say.

CriticalCondition · 07/11/2019 15:23

Just looked at the Lib Dem website.

"Membership of the Party is open to all persons who agree with its fundamental values and objectives without discrimination as to age, ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender or sexual orientation."

Spot the missing category.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 07/11/2019 15:32

FFS

Loopytiles · 07/11/2019 15:34
Shock
Loopytiles · 07/11/2019 15:36

Forgot about Tim thingamy.

Despite all this crap, I still don’t think Lib Dems are necessarily any worse for women than Labour or the Tories.

littlbrowndog · 07/11/2019 15:36

But you said you were a transgender person in your email. Under the stonewall umbralla

But yet there you are. Not welcome

LikeothersIamjustme · 07/11/2019 15:38

This needs to get press attention. If the response wasn't bad enough the 'missing' category as pointed out by Critical just seals the deal.

Loopytiles · 07/11/2019 15:39

Yeah, they apparently don’t want gender non conforming members with the “wrong” opinions!

Loopytiles · 07/11/2019 15:40

The missing category is indeed a shocker.

Karwomannghia · 07/11/2019 15:41

What is the Conservative stance on this? I am sure they’d shit all over GC women if they thought it meant more votes.

Michelleoftheresistance · 07/11/2019 15:44

At no point did you state you were aiming to upset discriminate or actively exclude trans people.

It has been mooted for a long time but the Lib Dems just officially confirmed it.

Women mentioning or seeking to preserve their legal rights (like single sex spaces, being allowed to be homosexual, being allowed to have biologically categoried sporting events, single sex HCPs, etc) and even defining themselves as a group based on shared female biology IS regarded as maliciously and intentionally aiming to upset, discriminate against and actively exclude trans people.

Women having rights - or even existing as a biological category - is not only incompatible with the transgender political ideology, but seen as a morally and socially unacceptable offense.

Stop the fucking country, I want to get off.

IsadoraQuagmire · 07/11/2019 15:49

Where's the Daily Mail, trawling the site looking for good stories to purloin, when you need them? This would go down well!

WickedGoodDoge · 07/11/2019 15:55

I’m almost at the point where I think Brexit is going to happen regardless and it’s now time to turn my focus to women’s rights which still have a chance to be saved. I have voted Tory in the past but had sworn to never do so again but there’s no way in hell I can vote Labour or Lib Dem. Am in Scotland, but the SNP either seem very good or very bad re women’s rights.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 07/11/2019 15:58

Was it signed by a real person or ‘J Bloggs’?

Loopytiles · 07/11/2019 16:06

Not just Brexit: antidemocratic practices such as proroguing Parliament; cuts in public spending etc.

Indeed Boris’ personal record as a father and politician.

voting for the Tories because of Lib Dem idiocy on trans / womens stuff isn’t likely to benefit women.

Lilimoon · 07/11/2019 16:10

Will you post if the other parties respond please OP?

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 07/11/2019 16:12

‘It isn’t possible to change biological sex’. This is just stating a fact with which the vast majority of scientists would concur. So are they all unwelcome in the party too? Mind you this is the party that has MPs that can ‘see souls’ and even more remarkably know if they are male or female souls. (Layla Moran). This would be such a good Daily Mail story......

Ereshkigal · 07/11/2019 16:13

we champion everyone’s right to live the life they want.”

There is no such right. Many people don't get to live the life they want. Fatuous thought-terminating cliché.

Justhadathought · 07/11/2019 16:16

I am flabbergasted. I didn't expect that I would have to believe that humans can change biological sex in order to be a member of the Lib Dems

I'm not quite so surprised, as that is their line......their liberalism first principles mean that they prioritise individual liberty above all....and do not seem to be able, or willing, to negotiate the obvious conflicts of interest involved in the transgender ideology. The Liberals are about as bad as it gets in this respect.

LoveCompost · 07/11/2019 16:17

They sound like a disappointed teacher talking to a maladjusted teenager ! Tell them their values are well below yours and you’ll be taking your vote elsewhere. And tell them to go and educate themselves 😂😂😂