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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Liz Truss speaks in support of single sex spaces

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teawamutu · 17/10/2019 20:20

Did I miss something? Am I dreaming?

https://twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1184786081356636160?s=17

Oh, and Dawn Butler Brent's an idiot. But we knew that.

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 18/10/2019 13:24

Victoria Atkins was at the HoC debate where Layla Moran told everyone she could see souls.
I was impressed with her at the time. All the handmaidens there were pressuring her to promise that the GRA reforms would go through ASAP but she refused to give in to them. I can’t remember exactly what she said but she was very clear they’d take as long as they needed to get it right.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 18/10/2019 13:32

Layla Moran told everyone she could see souls

She couldn't see them on HIGNFY this week, because she was assuming genders and he/she'ing people the whole time, without once checking pronouns.

Hypocrite.

nettie434 · 18/10/2019 15:15

Talking about seeing into souls, it might be more useful to be able to see a missing computer cable:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-47686844

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 18/10/2019 17:29

What? But that's...actual...literal...violence.

MoleSmokes · 01/11/2019 22:21

Royal Corgi, Nettie434, Sonic

Malcom Clark (Twitter @/twisterfilms) goes a long way back with trans issues and has shared some interesting history and thoughts.

Twitter thread:
twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1155458088964636675

Archived Twitter thread: archive.ph/MELTN

June 28 2019

1/ When did I first realise that extreme trans ideas are dangerous nonsense? Doubts started when I filmed with April Ashley, Britain's first transexual. She was described as a pioneer and so she was but also a heroine since she'd married..

2/ ..a minor Scottish aristocrat who divorced his wife to marry her. I met the aristo's family whose lives she'd ruined with tabloid scandal when her 'marriage' was annulled. She never once showed any sympathy and made it quite clear she was never in love...

3/..In the end, she said, our film suggested she was a gold digger. In one telling scene she said ..."I always imagined what it would be like to live in such a big house". She struck me as completely self-obsessed.

4/ Later I was asked to help out on a BBC Horizon, (I'd directed a number of shows for the strand) on a film about people who believed they were 'meant' to be amputees. I interviewed an otherwise seemingly normal German guy who wanted both his legs cut off below the knee..

5/ A Scottish surgeon did the op. The psychiatrists who approved it were all schooled in trans ideas and used trans type arguments. 'He would commit suicide if we don't do it', they said. They also claimed they carefully distinguished people like him from 'mere' fetishists

6/ But it was quite clearly easy to fool the psychiatrists. If they needed fooling that is. I spent a lot of time with the German guy and a strange tale of an ...unusual.. upbringing emerged.

7/ His parents had, for example, owned a factory producing 'prosthetic limbs' and he complained 'they'd never had time for me...only for their patients'. Mmm. Horizon later made an insightful film about John Money, the founding father of 'gender' identity ideas..

8/ whose disastrous notions led to the suicide of a man whose parents had been advised to bring him up as a girl. I therefore tried to get a Horizon commissioned that would explore openly the science of trans. Could someone really be born in wrong sexed body?

9/ Trans activists suggested we feature amazing Dutch research that showed a group of transwomen brains studied after their death had some (tiny) similarities to female brains rather than male. I contacted the Dutch scientists who roundly rejected this take on their research.

10/ Instead they pointed out the transwomen had been on high dose female hormones for years. That was why the brains had some tiny similarities. This 'conclusively' pro-trans research is hardly ever cited now by trans activists. And when BBC realised we were going to conclude ...

11/ ...that there was zilch evidence that people are born into the wrong sexed body, they got cold feet and the idea was pulled. I've followed the research since and despite desperate attempts by activists to move the goalposts...

12/ there still is no convincing evidence. Mind you it wouldn't surprise me if there WAS some evidence that people who want to mutilate their bodies or are uncomfortable with their bodies (in some way) do share some gene or some physical 'marker'

13/ But in that case there's also a good chance that trans people who want to change their bodies share this physical or neurological 'marker' with others who have a hatred of their bodies; like those who want to be amputees. The ironic thing, 20 years on...

14/ from the making of that disturbing Horizon is that the scientists and the psychiatrists may have unwittingly been on to something but just not in the way they thought they were. People who think they are "meant" to be amputees may share some...

15/ condition with those who want to remove their breasts or their genitals. For me now lesson of the film is that the psychiatric and surgical professions are as hopelessly unable to safeguard interests of trans people, as they were of wannabe amputees. Indeed they have a ..

16/ vested interest in "identity" confusion. It's telling that as trans numbers have grown more trans people are unwilling to undergo surgery. Like trans activists who've kept trying to find new research that proves their case they try to find new ways to be trans but this..

17/ ...has now brought them into conflict with a wider society that is uncomfortable with transwomen who refuse to do what April Ashley did 60 years ago & remove their male genitals. Trans ideology is struggling to find a way out of its inherent contradictions...

18/ If some trans people do not now feel a real need to become physically more like their biological ideals then how are we to know who is really different "inside their wrongly sexed brains" and those who are just faking it to access women's spaces?

19/ Today's trans car crash exemplified by Jessica Yaniv and her outrageous demands has been a long time coming but it was inevitable. That film 20 years ago revealed just how corrupt psychiatry, surgery could be and how dangerous and flawed were ideas about ...

20/ 'inner' identities separate from our human biology and lived physical experience. These ideas form basis of trans ideology. Watch the film yourself and tell me that it isn't an insight into something dark at heart of extreme trans ideology ok.ru/video/28195088…

Sorry folks.. this is the correct link for the show on the folks who felt their real identity was as amputees. Thanks for pointint it out.
ok.ru/video/281953962725

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