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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC 100 women of 2019

128 replies

StealthPolarBear · 16/10/2019 06:34

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-50042279
Brilliant :) annoyed at how few ive heard of although I suspect it would be similar if they listed the top 100 men

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/10/2019 15:36

A few sporting contributions:

Brigid Kosgei - new Women's Marathon World Record holder (pending ratification) - last weekend she smashed Paula Radcliffe's record from 2005.

Sarah Thomas, who just became first person of either sex to swim the English Channel four times continuously

Two women who won mixed sex races this year:
German cyclist Fiona Kolbinger won the 2,500-mile nonstop Transcontinental Race across Europe Aug 2019

British runner Jasmin Paris won one of the toughest running races there is, the Spine, a 268-mile jaunt across Britain’s backbone in winter, while breastfeeding her baby, and smashed the course record by over 12 hours - Jan 2019 (and she's a vet by training so has already excelled in a tough field)

Antibles · 16/10/2019 16:04

Is Posie on the list yet?

Right, this one may not be popular Grin but hear me out:

Theresa May. Say what you like about the politics but I believe seeing a female Prime Minister is a powerful conscious and subliminal message to girls about what they can achieve. Seeing the occasional female face in those overwhelmingly male international gatherings of leaders is important. She also weathered a staggering amount of abuse and ridicule and not everybody could do that.

Melroses · 16/10/2019 16:36

Who decides who goes on that list?

Mumfun · 16/10/2019 16:54

Definitely Jasmin Paris. She is astonishing.

Some of the other women on the BBC list deserve it like AOC who is also astonishing.

Hadnt heard of Marilyn Waring before but shes been very important in feminist economics and in being instrumental in NZ nuclear free policy

Vandana Shiva has been really inspiring in environmentalism in India

Several of the other BBC 100 women look great but might need a bit more study to assess their impact

Think your list may be a little UK oriented. Or do a UK one and an international one.

ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans · 16/10/2019 17:03

I agree about Theresa May and Gretta Thunburg.

I know her views are not universally popular but I would add Margaret Atwood.

NeurotrashWarrior · 16/10/2019 18:50

From climate change activist Greta Thunberg, to trans woman Nisha Ayub who was put into a male prison aged 21, many on the list are driving change on behalf of women everywhere. They give us their vision of what life could look like in 2030.

Erm...

NeurotrashWarrior · 16/10/2019 18:52

The pool of names was then assessed against this year's theme - the Female Future - and measured for regional representation and due impartiality, before the final 100 were chosen.

The future is Male.

AGnu · 17/10/2019 15:03
  1. Rosie Duffield
  2. Caroline Criado Perez
  3. Magdalen Berns
  4. Raquel Rosario Sanchez
  5. Joan McAlpine
  6. Joanna Cherry
  7. Hadley Freeman
  8. Gia Milinovich
  9. Julie Bindel
10. Kiri Tunks 11. Lady Hale 12. Justine Roberts 13. Jessica Eaton 14. Serena Williams 15. Katarina Johnson-Thompson 16. Nimco Ali 17. Jean Hatchet 18. Gada Kadoda 19. Marwa Al-Sabouni 20. Janice Turner 21. Dina Asher-Smith 22. Susan Bewley 23. Margaret McCartney 24. Simone Biles 25. Gina Miller 26. Martina Navratilova 27. Sharron Davies 28. Theresa Kachindamoto 29. Edna Adan 30. Jasmin Paris 31. Hibo Wardere 32. Pat Craven 33. Lucy Bronze 34. Esther Duflo 35. Megan Rapinoe 36. Phoebe Waller-Bridge 37. Maya Forstater 38. Naga Munchetty 39. Greta Thunberg 40. Dr. Emma Hilton 41. Sarah Field 42. Dr Shirley Thompson 43. Karen Ingala Smith 44. Sonia Poulton 45. Jessi Combs 46. Sarah Taylor 47. Bernadine Evaristo 48. Stephanie Davies-Arai 49. Nicola Williams 50. Brigid Kosgei 51. Sarah Thomas 52. Fiona Kolbinger 53. Posie Parker 54. Marilyn Waring 55. Vandana Shiva 56. Margaret Atwood 57. Nancy Pelosi
Antibles · 17/10/2019 15:13
  1. Rosie Duffield
  2. Caroline Criado Perez
  3. Magdalen Berns
  4. Raquel Rosario Sanchez
  5. Joan McAlpine
  6. Joanna Cherry
  7. Hadley Freeman
  8. Gia Milinovich
  9. Julie Bindel
10. Kiri Tunks 11. Lady Hale 12. Justine Roberts 13. Jessica Eaton 14. Serena Williams 15. Katarina Johnson-Thompson 16. Nimco Ali 17. Jean Hatchet 18. Gada Kadoda 19. Marwa Al-Sabouni 20. Janice Turner 21. Dina Asher-Smith 22. Susan Bewley 23. Margaret McCartney 24. Simone Biles 25. Gina Miller 26. Martina Navratilova 27. Sharron Davies 28. Theresa Kachindamoto 29. Edna Adan 30. Jasmin Paris 31. Hibo Wardere 32. Pat Craven 33. Lucy Bronze 34. Esther Duflo 35. Megan Rapinoe 36. Phoebe Waller-Bridge 37. Maya Forstater 38. Naga Munchetty 39. Greta Thunberg 40. Dr. Emma Hilton 41. Sarah Field 42. Dr Shirley Thompson 43. Karen Ingala Smith 44. Sonia Poulton 45. Jessi Combs 46. Sarah Taylor 47. Bernadine Evaristo 48. Stephanie Davies-Arai 49. Nicola Williams 50. Brigid Kosgei 51. Sarah Thomas 52. Fiona Kolbinger 53. Posie Parker 54. Marilyn Waring 55. Vandana Shiva 56. Margaret Atwood 57. Nancy Pelosi 58. Theresa May
NeurotrashWarrior · 17/10/2019 20:45

These lists are awesome!

Shelly Charlesworth is going to sum up some bits from the bbc event later:

twitter.com/charlesworth102/status/1184876266400485376?s=21

  1. Rosie Duffield
  2. Caroline Criado Perez
  3. Magdalen Berns
  4. Raquel Rosario Sanchez
  5. Joan McAlpine
  6. Joanna Cherry
  7. Hadley Freeman
  8. Gia Milinovich
  9. Julie Bindel
10. Kiri Tunks 11. Lady Hale 12. Justine Roberts 13. Jessica Eaton 14. Serena Williams 15. Katarina Johnson-Thompson 16. Nimco Ali 17. Jean Hatchet 18. Gada Kadoda 19. Marwa Al-Sabouni 20. Janice Turner 21. Dina Asher-Smith 22. Susan Bewley 23. Margaret McCartney 24. Simone Biles 25. Gina Miller 26. Martina Navratilova 27. Sharron Davies 28. Theresa Kachindamoto 29. Edna Adan 30. Jasmin Paris 31. Hibo Wardere 32. Pat Craven 33. Lucy Bronze 34. Esther Duflo 35. Megan Rapinoe 36. Phoebe Waller-Bridge 37. Maya Forstater 38. Naga Munchetty 39. Greta Thunberg 40. Dr. Emma Hilton 41. Sarah Field 42. Dr Shirley Thompson 43. Karen Ingala Smith 44. Sonia Poulton 45. Jessi Combs 46. Sarah Taylor 47. Bernadine Evaristo 48. Stephanie Davies-Arai 49. Nicola Williams 50. Brigid Kosgei 51. Sarah Thomas 52. Fiona Kolbinger 53. Posie Parker 54. Marilyn Waring 55. Vandana Shiva 56. Margaret Atwood 57. Nancy Pelosi 58. Theresa May 59.Gina Rippon 60. Cordelia Fine
QuentinWinters · 17/10/2019 21:24

Angela Merkel
Laura Bates

I'm very uk/western centric Blush

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 17/10/2019 21:53

While agreeing that a male shouldn't be in a women's awards list (or prison), it's appalling that Ayub was jailed for the 'crime' of wearing 'women's attire

To be clear, the Malaysian Supreme Court rules that this law was illegal in 2014 and it is hence void.

However Malaysian courts upheld the punishment of whipping for attempted lesbianism in 2018 and the women were publicly caned before 100 spectators.

Obviously the BBC are more concerned about men's rights to wear what they want (which in fact they now can) then actual women being caned.

Same old BBC shit

NotBadConsidering · 17/10/2019 22:56

Laura Bates

Who uses terms like “people with vaginas”? No ta.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3686376-Girl-Up-really

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 17/10/2019 23:18

Justine. For allowing the discussion.

zebrasdontwearbras · 17/10/2019 23:34

I'll second Justine - I'm critical of the extra special mod rules for trans issues here - by my god, Justine continues to allow the discussion here, despite unbelievable pressure form TRAs.

I would also add Heather Brunksell Evans - co author of the book "Born n Your Own Body" - who works hard researching and speaking about "the trans child" in a thoughtful and intelligent way.

She was expelled from the Women's Equality Party for her stance on this, and has been harassed by TRAs wherever she goes. A brave and intelligent woman.

zebrasdontwearbras · 17/10/2019 23:37

Linda Bellos and Venice Allen should be on there too - for seeing off an outrageous private prosecution by 'Guiliana London' and wearing Suffragette colours in court Smile

BBC 100 women of 2019
ALittleBitofVitriol · 17/10/2019 23:42

Jane Clare Jones?

GroggyLegs · 17/10/2019 23:47

My vote is for Nicky Spinks - at 51 she set the record for running the Ramsey Round twice (116 miles of fell running).

First person, not first woman. And she's beaten cancer too.

She is awesome.

Clunchee · 17/10/2019 23:55

Jacinda Ardern - New Zealand PM.

Michele Moore and Kathleen Stock - for services to feminism and women's rights.

Alison Moyet and Amanda Abbington - for being bad-ass female role models.

Hullabalooo · 18/10/2019 03:55

Ruth Serwotka for setting up Women's Place UK and Nic Williams for the Fair play for women campaign.

Also Sharron Davies for being so vocal about keeping women's sport female.

kulaexchange · 18/10/2019 05:12

Sara Rowbothem - the social worker who exposed the Rochdale Abuse scandal

kulaexchange · 18/10/2019 05:16

The Queen - for similar reasons to Teressa May. It doesn't matter if you agree with the Royal family. When Teressa May was the PM I could tell my five year old DD that the two people in charge of the country were women and that's empowering.

kulaexchange · 18/10/2019 05:20

Jasmine Paris the lady that won a 268 ultra marathon whilst breastfeeding her baby

kulaexchange · 18/10/2019 05:28

Comfort Momoh - a midwife who specialises in treating women who have experienced FGM.

AGnu · 18/10/2019 10:53

Oops, definitely didn't mean to leave TM off! Thanks for correcting my list. Don't agree with some of her politics but having a woman in charge of the country is indeed inspiring!

  1. Rosie Duffield
  2. Caroline Criado Perez
  3. Magdalen Berns
  4. Raquel Rosario Sanchez
  5. Joan McAlpine
  6. Joanna Cherry
  7. Hadley Freeman
  8. Gia Milinovich
  9. Julie Bindel
10. Kiri Tunks 11. Lady Hale 12. Justine Roberts 13. Jessica Eaton 14. Serena Williams 15. Katarina Johnson-Thompson 16. Nimco Ali 17. Jean Hatchet 18. Gada Kadoda 19. Marwa Al-Sabouni 20. Janice Turner 21. Dina Asher-Smith 22. Susan Bewley 23. Margaret McCartney 24. Simone Biles 25. Gina Miller 26. Martina Navratilova 27. Sharron Davies 28. Theresa Kachindamoto 29. Edna Adan 30. Jasmin Paris 31. Hibo Wardere 32. Pat Craven 33. Lucy Bronze 34. Esther Duflo 35. Megan Rapinoe 36. Phoebe Waller-Bridge 37. Maya Forstater 38. Naga Munchetty 39. Greta Thunberg 40. Dr. Emma Hilton 41. Sarah Field 42. Dr Shirley Thompson 43. Karen Ingala Smith 44. Sonia Poulton 45. Jessi Combs 46. Sarah Taylor 47. Bernadine Evaristo 48. Stephanie Davies-Arai 49. Nicola Williams 50. Brigid Kosgei 51. Sarah Thomas 52. Fiona Kolbinger 53. Posie Parker 54. Marilyn Waring 55. Vandana Shiva 56. Margaret Atwood 57. Nancy Pelosi 58. Theresa May 59. Gina Rippon 60. Cordelia Fine 61. Angela Merkel 62. Laura Bates 63. Heather Brunskell-Evans 64. Linda Bellos 65. Venice Allan 66. Jane Clare Jones 67. Nicky Spinks 68. Jacinda Ardern 69. Michele Moore 70. Kathleen Stock 71. Alison Moyet 72. Amanda Abbington 73. Ruth Serwotka 74. Sara Rowbothem 75. Queen Elizabeth II 76. Comfort Momoh
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