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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rhiannon Spear is the new Women's Convenor for the SNP

68 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 15/10/2019 17:54

She is no friend to women. Unless they have a penis.

Rhiannon Spear is the new Women's Convenor for the SNP
Rhiannon Spear is the new Women's Convenor for the SNP
Rhiannon Spear is the new Women's Convenor for the SNP
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ErrolTheDragon · 16/10/2019 18:54

Women and girls are not oppressed due to their sex.

Does she have any explanation for why in some cultures XX babies are selectively aborted?

Women are oppressed by gender because of our sex.

If women were only oppressed because of our gender, transmen would be immune ... they aren't.

littlbrowndog · 16/10/2019 18:56

By the way why don’t you just report the transphobic and Scottish hate 🤦‍♀️

FadingStar · 16/10/2019 19:02

Awful woman. Malicious or stupid or weak? I just can't decide. And that goes for her supporters too.

PoweringUp · 16/10/2019 19:11

Between this and the latest stunt from Mhairi Black, I certainly won’t be voting SNP again.

Fraggling · 16/10/2019 19:20

'Does she have any explanation for why in some cultures XX babies are selectively aborted?'

Because they're too stupid to identify out of it.

Presumably ditto for all the other shit that's done to us around the world.

So she believes that girls and women are oppressed globally in a variety of ways because they are too stupid to identify out of it, or they like it.

When isis come and they take the girls and rape them and kill boys. How does she explain that. Are they choosing based on invisible thoughts on the head? Or by who is feminine and who is masculine?

It is enraging that women, women are saying these things. What is this idiots response to it all? It doesn't matter? What? I'd fucking love to know.

FadingStar · 16/10/2019 20:59

Fraggling, I can only conclude she is a woman who loves to hurt women. 😢 Just desperately treacherous.

Aspley · 16/10/2019 21:05

@Babyjakesmum
Someone has a vivid imagination don't they?
What do TRA always have to tell lies all the clucking time?
This isn't a game.

nauticant · 16/10/2019 21:06

"Do it to Julia" shall be the whole of the law.

TheTravellingCat · 16/10/2019 21:18

By the way this is a breathtaking amount of anti-Scottish hate going here. Not surprised that sponsors are running the other way from this

Not supporting the SNP or criticising the SNP is not being "anti-Scottish"

I'm Scottish. I detest the SNP- Like Babdoc I'm happy to see anything which spoils their chances, but I don't see anything anti-Scottish on here.

CoolCarrie · 16/10/2019 22:04

Where are you seeing anti trans and anti Scottish here ?

What a fucking disappointment this news is

CoolCarrie · 16/10/2019 22:05

Oh and the women on MN are the ones running to butter, and away from plastic spread!

Keeptrudging · 20/10/2019 17:40

This does not reflect the majority opinion of the SNP. Rhiannon got a grand total of 210 votes. Single Transferable Vote system means votes were transferred to candidates in stages from candidates with lowest votes. Rhiannon didn't 'win' until stage 5. Colette got the most votes, and would have been clear winner with FPTP.

This is a small clique within SNP driving things. Women (and men) in the SNP are starting to realise what's happened (finally) and are speaking out about it. The tide is turning on this. There's a Womens Pledge on the go, pledging to uphold women's rights as they stand in current law. It's got 2,500 signatures, and is now being widely circulated. I'm staying with the SNP, I think they generally do well for Scotland, and I was there before this woke crowd. I don't have a viable alternative to vote for, so I'd rather stay and help fix it.

Gingerkittykat · 20/10/2019 18:03

I think we need to know what the definition of trans woman is from the SNP.

Someone with a GRA?

Someone non binary with a male body?

Phillip Bunce or Danielle Muscado? Gregor Murray?

Rhiannon Spear is the new Women's Convenor for the SNP
BeMoreMagdalen · 20/10/2019 18:37

Got to say, in terms of putting the kibosh on women's suffrage, engineering a situation where politically engaged women find themselves either unable to vote or on a ridiculous treadmill to uphold the very basis of their rights as a whole is quite a strategy. I don't think the fuckers planned it, because I think most bad situations come about through a combination of laziness, complacency and downright stupidity, but a planned disenfranchisement could hardly have been more effective.

Karabair · 20/10/2019 18:45

If she's not oppressed by her sex but her gender, why doesn't she just identify her way out of her gender?

How can someone be that stupid?

Michelleoftheresistance · 20/10/2019 18:45

Wonder what Rhiannon thinks happened to those poor transmen raped for existing while in possession of female biology near a man who felt entitled to use it, and sobbed to their rapist that they identified as men? Their gender was male as far as they were concerned. It didn't make any difference. Because biological females cannot identify out of the oppression that comes with their biology.

You utter coward, Rhiannon.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 20/10/2019 19:07

She's now posted a big long thread about how she's always been respectful and everyone's being mean to her, wah wah wah.

So you didn't call women with concerns terfs, transphobes and "Jeremy Hunts" then?

She's definitely not very bright.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 19:11

Love by the sword. You can’t call a load of people c*s (on social media - where things never disappear) and expect it to lie do you?

TheTravellingCat · 20/10/2019 19:14

So you didn't call women with concerns terfs, transphobes and "Jeremy Hunts" then?

Rhiannon Spear didn't- that was Mhairi Black but I concede telling the difference between 2 not very bright SNP MPs/MSP's isn't easy.

galvantula · 20/10/2019 19:26

Fucks. Sake.

As long as we consider trans women are women .

Angry
SonicVersusGynaephobia · 20/10/2019 19:27

Rhiannon did it too, TheTravellingCat, she thought Mhairi Black was so right and hilarious that Rhiannon then posted something about how women need to start speaking up for transwomen now and "don't be a Jeremy Hunt"

BeMoreMagdalen · 20/10/2019 19:28

Rhiannon gleefully linked to and applauded Mhairi Black for her clueless waffle and calling women cunts. I think that can be quite adequately seen as Rhiannon endorsing women being called cunts for talking about keeping their rights.

TheTravellingCat · 20/10/2019 19:42

BeMoreMagdalen and SonicVersusGynaephobia

I stand corrected. Thank you.

Aside from anything else it's also depressing that despite all their virtue- signalling smugness they are too stupid to see how disrespectful that is to a fellow MP and that making fun of someone's name is bullying.

BeMoreMagdalen · 20/10/2019 19:51

TheTravellingCat

There aren't many occasions when I'm rather dejected about being right, and offering a correction, but sheesh, having to underline that yes, this woman in politics really did call other women cunts for talking about keeping their rights is one of the most glaringly unpleasant...

BeMoreMagdalen · 20/10/2019 19:52

I'm.just being dejected out loud,btw. I think I'm going to.go and do something life affirming, this is all getting a bit much again.