Posie Parker Interview

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Is anyone else aware that Posie is doing an interview with controversial youtuber, j.f. gariepy? didn't expect to see that...

Working class women’s material reality is being harmed (see Canadians beauticians, women prisoners et al). Why?? To validate a bunch of middle class people’s internal feelings.

I’m sorry if discussing this causes distress to people, but losing access to female spaces harms vulnerable women. The sooner we sort out female spaces & spaces for TW/CW the better.

And, since someone above has referred to the "hate crime" report for England & Wales released today, see the actual report and the actualdata tables

According to the data tables, broken down by offence type, the category "violence against the person including injury" had 6 crimes committed against transgender persons over the year.

How many VAWG crimes of "violence against the person including injury" were committed in the same period, I wonder?

At my work, both male and female people promote the “woman in leadership” stuff - that doesn’t bother me

I think if the definition of hate crime is changed, dedicated officers and phone lines created, and lots of publicity encouraging reporting, it is likely to cause an increase in statistics. The Oxfordshire police are devoting an extraordinary level of time, personnel and effort rushing around counting stickers at the moment. I am not sure if every sticker counts as a crime or not.
Having said that, the level of violent crime has increased dramatically, murder and rape come to mind.

A crime has to be committed in which hate has to be proved as a motivating factor in that crime for it to be classified in law as a hate crime.

This is very different from a "hate incident" wherein it relies on the perception of the complainant that 'hate' was involved in an incident that caused him or her a degree of distress.

I assume 74 women have been killed so far this year in the UK. This is because on average, two women are killed by men every week.

Please don’t try and guilt women into putting themselves last.

There seems to be some conflation of crime/ incident in the minds of some of the public and media.

Violent behaviour, murder and rape of women and girls is much less important than violent sticker transphobic crime though.

Abberhonddu
What difference does it matter what gender you are if you see inequality in the workplace and you would like to see a change in thinking in the senior management team

To be honest it's clear actual xx cunty women don't matter at all.

What difference does it matter what gender you are if you see inequality in the workplace and you would like to see a change in thinking in the senior management team

Inequality between men and women is based on sex not gender.

For clarification I abhor all form of hate crime in whatever guise that comes from
All I have tried to do is to express a concern over the latest hate crime statistics, yes I have highlighted the increase in transphobic attack’s as I have been a victim of such an attack by a group of women who had perhaps a bit too much to drink and who felt brave by being in a group
I will reaffirm my hope and prayers that we can ALL live with respect and consideration in an increasingly violent world 😔

Men attack transwomen, who are a subset of men.

I dont hate anyone, I just want single SEX provision. Where is your empathy for me, a victim of male violence, Alison?

Go complain to the fucking MEN. They are the violent ones. Which is why women dont want to share spaces with adult ones.

Sorry to hear that happened - I agree that violence is wrong and bad.

Solidarity Detroit, it’s so good to see posts from you. Feel free to update your own thread if you ever feel like it - I know many posters would love that. We can even post furry friends 🦒🦖

Detroit 19, Haven’t I just said I abhor all forms of hate, and I am so so sorry that you like me have suffered violence against you
I did not get attacked by men I got attacked by a group of intoxicated women as I was walking home causing no harm to anyone
I do also believe that some of the rhetoric that sometimes comes from commentators within all forms of media can cause violence as these people see it as a green light to go back to their base instincts
Please let’s all of us try and live in peace and harmony

Actually, I think "don't work with white supremacists" is something that all good human beings should subscribe to. It's got nothing to do with being a good feminist.

I was responding to the idea that it's a problem that PP didn't engage in a particular list of other types of advocacy and that makes her nor a real feminist allay.

But engaging in public discourse with all kinds of people is not "working with white supremacists". That kind of leap is a huge problem. Wide public discourse, with anyone, is one of the cornerstones of liberal democracy and our political system depends upon it.

I sometimes see a real gap posting here between people who have a problem with no-platforming because they think that those who oppose trans ideology are right, but are actually happy to no-platform all kinds of other things, and those who oppose no-platforming even if they think the people being silenced are wrong or crackpots.

You keep appealing for peace and harmony, Allison - but where's the kindness for women who would like to protect their rights? The very word "woman" is practically treated as a transphobic hate crime now.

We get abused, threatened, harassed, sacked, punched by TRAs for meeting up. For posting on social media.

Detroit19 would like to live peacefully too - but has been let down badly by women's dv centres accepting male bodied transwomen into what should be a female-only service.

You ask for kindness, but I'm afraid the movement led by many trans rights advocates is full of hardcore misogyny and violent (even sexually violent) imagery. Not kindness or empathy with women. I'm reminded of a transwoman saying "I'm a woman because I say am, so enjoy your erasure"

Or brandishing baseball bats with messages like "die cis scum" and "die in a grease fire".

That doesn't, overall, make me want to kindly accept that "transwomen are women" just because they say they are, and should be entitled to use any and all female spaces.

Allison, im sad for you that you were allegedly the victim of vanishingly rare violence by women against a male bodied person.

Im short, slightly built, and have never hurt a soul in my life. Ive never met a person observed male at birth who didnt tower over me.

Noone is trying to whip up violence against trans people. I do see a lot of transwomen online making physical threats against xx women.

I only ask for all xx women spaces to be available. ALL spaces accepts trans women, theres no single SEX provision. Not even one shelter.

I suspect you and I would even be friends in real life, I absolutely feel fpr your suffering, but MY suffering means male bodied people scare me. Im very traumatized by rape and beatings. Ild like to talk to you, maybe then I would cease to be an evil terf and a real person who is legitimately traumatized over a lifetime

This thread is one of the oddest I've ever seen on Mumsnet. The de-rails are bizarre.

I’m sorry you were attacked - I hope the police have charged them and you are recovering well, truly

Women are frequently attacked, raped and killed by male persons. If there is a male person in the next bed on the ward, we don’t know if they are a TW or a man - how can we? This is the issue - basing admission on gender ID opens the door to men who exploit any loophole.

Please support female-only wards & space for CW/TW. This will help achieve the harmony we all want.

But engaging in public discourse with all kinds of people is not "working with white supremacists". That kind of leap is a huge problem. Wide public discourse, with anyone, is one of the cornerstones of liberal democracy and our political system depends upon it.

Please explain how PP appearing on this channel is engaging in wide public discourse? Someone said that it had had around 4500 views - which will be the normal viewers plus some of PPs supporters. That's not wide public discourse is it? It's preaching to the converted, many of whom will hold other racist or misogynistic views, in line with the channel's normal content.

I find the statement published earlier completely disingenuous. If you go onto a channel like this, which belongs to the host, then unless you are challenging their views I think it's understandable that anyone seeing it will assume that you don't disagree with their general viewpoint. It's not like she appeared on Question Time or some other mainstream show where she can't control who else is on the panel. She should have done due diligence to find out what his channel is and what it stands for and I can't understand why many people on here are refusing to admit that this isn't right.

It's like the emperor's New clothes here.