Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

[Whatisthisfuckery]

I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

"The law states that below the age of 16 children are not able to give informed consent."

I agree.

Britain traditionally has a very uptight hush-hush "no sex please, we're British" attitude which I don't think is helpful.
WTF?
So...if people are horrified by young children being introduced to perverted sexual practices by adults it's because we are uptight British prudes and, what? Ought to be more free and easy like the Forrin?
Are you serious? I have lived in different countries and been married to 2 men from, what you might think of as more more openly sensual cultures. I can tell you right now that all that means is that they are maybe a bit more affectionate, warmer, more romantic. It certainly doesn't mean that they also wouldn't be utterly disgusted with this garbage.
I also have a Scandinavian friend with a teenage daughter. My friend is very relaxed about nudity and talking about sex, but that comes with a very healthy sense of boundaries and self respect. NO WAY would she accept anyone telling her daughter how to have anal at 13.
I just cannot beleive anyone could possibly justify this. Really gobsmacked.

We're getting told off by people on the AIBU thread for calling it grooming.

A lot of people find it very uncomfortable to contemplate the idea that they might have been groomed themselves.

Thos giy needs investigating, and so do the organisations that are condoning it.

The people involved, tracked through to it going live on the internet. Those involved are responsible for serious breaches of safeguarding.

Just where to start with those that, having read it, think it's ok. ... doesn't look good, if these people are parents and think its ok for their own dc.

All for fear of being called 'prude', in the name of 'education'

Gtf

*this guy excuse for a man

I'm not a parent, but teenagers absolutely do not need to be learning about niche porn related sexual acts! These sexual practices come with a level of risk and adults can choose to experiment and indulge in them if they wish, but teenagers really have no need for this sort of explicit information.

These practices are not a part of the vast majority of adults' sex lives and discussing such types of sex will only serve to confuse children and make them assume it's something that all adults engage in when this is clearly not the case!
Standard PIV sex is stressful, terrifying and embarrassing enough for teenagers, especially girls. They are not in a position to assert their boundaries in kink and fetish situations. Let teenagers be teenagers and let them learn the basics and understand that they can refuse any sexual act at any time. That is the most important thing that girls and boys need to learn - how to say no.

They have their whole life ahead of them as adults to experiment with more risky stuff if they ever feel like it - and most folk don't.

Felching and fisting..wtf? I'm open to many sorts of sexual things as an adult but that's stuff even I don't feel inclined to go near, and people think it's ok to put this sort of pressure and anxiety on young people who haven't even sexually and mentally matured yet?!

I don't think I've even heard of Felching... is it safe to Google?

No tracey!!!!!!

I have heard it...but I can’t remember what it is

I think ive blocked it out

No please don't Google it.

Felching would not be safe for work...but totally fine for 12 year old girls.

That's how it works right?

Given that most 13 years olds are still in the "ew, icky" stage in general the idea that they'd spontaneously decide to give felching a go without prompting by creepy older men is ludicrous. Which is no doubt why the creepy older men are trying so hard to make it seem like a standard part of any sexual encounter.

I think the people who commission this kind of material need to bear in mind that some men get off on just talking to kids about sex, and that allowing them to do so is basically facilitating their having a wank at the expense of students.

Just go to the respectyourself.com website tracey. The 'sextionary' will explain all. Soon you'll be as up to speed as all modern thirteen year olds apparently need to be.

I think the people who commission this kind of material need to bear in mind that some men get off on just talking to kids about sex, and that allowing them to do so is basically facilitating their having a wank at the expense of students.

Yes.

Yup. And the thing is even the kids themselves know it They would see any adult trying to chat to them about this stuff as a fucking nonce. Because they are. Or they are a nonce's clueless handmaiden.

Creepy old man writes wank matter to groom young teens and tweens.

Thing is that teen boys have always had checklists of things to try.
In my day it was quite tame.
These days they get a smorgasboard of things to put on their to do lists.

Other thing is girls like to try stuff too too see what the fuss is about... shouldn't be forgotten. This needs bearing in mind as its why the subtle or not so subtle coercion from teen boys to give it a go, often works.

Difference between then and now, with the porn. Is it's all about male pleasure and orgasm. And dominance. I started my sexually active days late 80s when there was still a thing around mutual pleasure. And female orgasm. Mainstream porn now is all about male sexual dominance. And discomfort or pain for the woman seems to be sexy. A validation of masculinity.

What they need to be telling them is

Porn is not real life
Some acts are more 'advanced' than others and if got wrong can cause injury or worse
Boys and girls need to understand what coercion looks like and is not on
That sex is about mutual pleasure

Of course facts about age of consent, std, contraception should be shared.

Dangers of images being shared re legality plus once it's out there it can go anywhere

Is there more?

Going to catch up on thread now. Felching for 12yo and no saying no to make docs wtf

Porn is not real life

This! ^

So, I'm in my mid-thirties and divorced. Currently single but dating though not really looking for anything all too serious. I'll freely admit to being "married" to my career at this point.

Getting back into the dating scene after my divorce, having married very young, was a shock!

I honestly don't think the things that are considered "par for the course" nowadays were when I was last dating around.

I mean, anal? Fisting? Choking?

Sorry, but, like, FUCK, NO WAY IN HELL!!!

I'm not a prude, actually. It's just that I happen to expect sex to be enjoyable to me, too.

The Sex Education Forum campaigned for statutory RSE and now provide extensive training for teachers. They list goingofftherails as a partner .Going off the rails has a seriously concerning view of sexual behaviours and children.
www.goingofftherails.co.uk/healthy-sexual-development/

Organisations spear heading social change that denies parental rights must be held to account when they then legitimise providers such as Goingofftherails.

I'm a bit confused.

Kids are going to ask about these things right? That is what people are saying on AIBU and Twatter. And it is better for them to find out from the nice man who is engaged in spreading the knowledge right?

But lots of adults here don't actually know what some of these things are. So they never asked, or googled, until prompted to do so by the nice man writing about it.

So how can both of those things be true?

Or will kids not actually spontaneously google 'felching' unless prompted?

Or is it maybe just MN people who don't know what felching is? Should I do a quick check on my ds's Reception parents' WhatsApp group?

Try to choke me and I will call the police on your misogynistic, porn addicted arse.

Well i know what felching is so I'm not sure what your point is.

I can't find the advice about anal on the link, can anyone point me in the right direction (no pun intended).

There is a section called baby making machinery, i kept thinking the link was broken as the page that came up said 'guys. Spunk and sperm' . Eventually realised that female reproduction was after. That is interesting.

That going off the rails link for 0-5yo is a bit, umm. Hugging is a sexual thing in 4yo?

I'm going to play devil's advocate here

But you're not, are you? Who here has objected to sensible harm reduction advice being given to teens? Nobody.

It is not "harm reduction" to teach girls that an activity is super duper and cool and normal when study after study shows that they are regularly performing sex acts that they don't like and are being pressured into.

The actual harm reduction here would be to start a teen version of the Freedom Programme that would enable girls to assert their own boundaries and teach boys how to respect them.

No sex education programme for minors should be framed around an acceptance of porn culture.

Should I do a quick check on my ds's Reception parents' WhatsApp group?

Yes

Do that

Then come back and tell us how it goes...

(JOKE!)