Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

Urghhhh wouldn’t let Jonny Hunt mind the kids would you. What a sick fuck.

So much wrong in what you state the allthewhat

Firstly,

well, if 13-year olds want to have anal sex they should be given the instructions to do it safely" as a reasonable seeming solution.

then of course you're going to end up at "why shouldn't a 13-year old girl have anal sex?

^ doesn't relate in any way to what's in that article, have you read it? It doesn't mention the reality of anal, that it can cause serious harm, it's seriously biased and extremely dishonest.

I do believe that curious minds should find answers. The truth...not some dangerous porn that sounds like its been written by a child and purporting to be fucking cool , penned by some pornographer.

Yes, I do agree that there should be answers, which is why I've told teens the very dangerous risks of serious harms from anal, that the rectum is in no way designed to receive anything up it, only to expel waste and incompatible with hygiene and bodily safety. If you want to try it that you should be with someone you know very well and trust at least 100%, and even then it may hurt or cause bleeding.

Unsurprisingly, it didnt appeal! They were shocked and thought vagina and rectum had the same biology.

How can any grow up not knowing that basic fact?

We seem to be floating along on myths and lies.

How very progressive.

I'm all for openess, access to facts, but that wasn't it. Miles from it.

Its heavily biaised and dangerous clap-trap for girls.

The fact it talks about girls, and guys. So girls, underage girls, yes, under age, not technically, actually underage and illegal, rape. Not even mentioned.

Not a whisper of safeguarding. All promoted,and normalised abuses.

Yes, definitely a petition, but I don’t live there.
It makes me sad on behalf of my two sons as well as girls in general.
No children should be pressurised into sex in this way, or made to feel that they are behind if they want to wait. I’m sure many boys would rather be in a loving relationship with a girlfriend rather than feeling under pressure to have sex at all straight away. In fact I know many boys like that.
Where is the talk about emotions?How you have sexual feelings as a teenager but that doesn’t mean you should have sex yet, because you’re not emotionally ready. It can be a very confusing time for boys and girls. I thought about sex a lot when I was a teenager - that’s normal - but no way was I emotionally ready to have sex.
This curriculum seems to be saying ‘if you want to have sex, you should, and you should be doing x y z random niche sexual activity’.

This is just...it can't be real? Are you sure it's not a wind up?
I'm an adult. I've been around the block a few times. I hadn't even heard of some of these things. They are aiming this filth at children, most of whom havnt even kissed anyone at that age.
It's grooming in plain sight.
Who okay ed this? What nonce wrote it and what gormless, liberal, dick pleasing fucking council comittee approved it? Who do I complain to? I will fucking take legal action if my kid is exposed to this.

Please put this in AIBU. If it's real people need to know.

Truthontrial did YOU read what allthewhat actually said? She is saying the same as you. She is saying that liberal feminism has led to all this bullshit where there isn’t a theoretical objection to 13 yos having anal sex because it’s all about consent, very loosely defined and probably only obtained as a result of ‘negotiation’.

Ha! Well yes, and I put it in my pp.

I do think dc should have, age appropriate, information.

However, that was not.

I don't think that website info is in any way anything other that pornographic. It isn't what I believe in setting out age appropriate info.

It doesn't tell the truth. Biology isn't harmful. Carefully navigated, tricky emotions and feelings aren't harmful, but porn is.

I can't link the two, and my understanding of the pp was that one was to blame for the other. Have I got that wrong?

Truthontrial I"m not sure if you misunderstood my point, as Pota2 suggested. I'm honestly at a loss to see how you could have. I note that you have pulled out the only quotes from a very long post that could possibly make it look like I think this is a good thing, and stripped them of all the context that makes it clear I don't think that. Are you straight up trolling and trying to start a fight?

To give you the benefit of the doubt, are you arguing that this website is fine in theory, and would be fine with you in practice if it were more explicit about the dangers of anal sex and if it mentioned that sex between 13 year olds and adults is rape and illegal? I agree that both of the above amendments would improve this "resource" somewhat but I would not be okay with it even if your suggested amendments were made.

I think you did misunderstand it. She was criticising the reasoning of liberal feminism with its sex positivity and emphasis only on consent, which makes it (according to their logic) impossible to argue that children shouldn’t engage in these things, as long as they consent.

She was essentially saying the same as you.

That last one was to Truth, not allmywhat

@IfNot - it's in AIBU. All the sex possie people are there, saying that they asked to be penetrated anally when they were 15 and this is all sound advice and useful to point teens to

Are we meant to think they're cool girls when they do that? Cause it mostly just makes me feel a combination of pity and contempt at the idea that anyone would be that desperate for male approval.

And I cross-posted with Truth.

I think I see where wires were crossed. I also think kids should have access to information. But that information shouldn't suggest that anal sex at 13 is a good idea. I think we're more or less on the same page with that. As Pota said, I'm talking about the issues with "sex positivity" which make it hard to coherently talk about the reasons sex at 13 is a bad idea, or to acknowledge that anal sex is frequently (usually?) a terrible experience for women, even adult women, even if they consent to it. Talking about the physical risks and consequences of some kinds of bad sex is good and useful, but insufficient.

Kittens some of it is probably grown men writing that shit and getting off on it. Same as the fictional 12 year old watching porn and having lesbian fantasies about her teacher.

There are also some people who have very fucked up views, often as a result of trying to justify abuse that they suffered when younger to themselves. I mean it’s easier to pretend that you’re in control and powerful than admit that men abused you for their own ends.

Thanks for sharing my Twitter thread (yes I am @HubbleVicky)....and thanks for being so,horrified by it as I was.

This is so disgusting. I have no words.

We really need proper feminist, age appropriate sex education resources that emphasise the right to say no, that it's okay to be gay or gender non-conforming, that porn is an abusive fiction, that many of the acts in porn are dangerous, and that sex shouldn't hurt or involve violence.

WHO THE FUCK thinks it's okay to tell 13 years olds, gay or straight, how to have anal sex?

Bottom line, its illegal and the law is there to protect.

I do think there needs to be facts online to challenge the utter mysogynistic porn out there.

Ideally though,there wouldnt be any porn, that would also be a bottom line for me as it's, insofar as I've seen to this point, meeting male needs for dominance and objectivising.

Is there a link to the aibu anyone? I will go have a look anyway.

It's a runaway train. There needs to be a huge high profile campaign on this.

Sex education MNHQ - respecting yourself and others, burning the myths.

Fucking hell Orchid.
What the Hell has this site attracted lately??

Here are some things my teen son has said to me regarding stuff learned in health studies/sex ed:

You shouldn't feel pressured to do anything sexual.
Sex with someone under 16 is illegal.
Someone a lot older having sex with a teen is ew and they shouldn't be doing that.
Porn is a big business and not everyone doing it wants to be. (I think he got that one from me..)
Sex should be about love and respect and it's fine to change your mind even if you are in the middle of it.
Sometimes boys have wet dreams and it's normal.
Sex sometimes leads to babies and babies are a lifetime commitment (also from me!)
It's fine to be gay and gay people love each other and have happy relationships just like straight people.

THAT'S appropriate for young teens.
I'm not a prude. I say openly that sex can be a beautiful thing WHEN you are ready. It's not a transaction or a performance or something to be "negotiated".
Don't these (literal) walkers realise that this kind of propaganda is actually quite scary for kids? I remember getting into an older crowd at 16 (not 13) and feeling out if my depth and scared by the stuff they talked about. I would be fucking traumatised if AN OFFICIAL SCHOOL SANCTIONED leaflet had made out that playing with shit was part of sex!?
(Still struggling to beleive it's real tbh).

Maybe this is some covert ops thing to put teenagers off sex for years? Because "playing with shit! It's normal and fun!" had been my intro I might have been tempted to join a nunnery.

Its called pornographic oversharing, dc should not be privy to it at all.

No dc needs to know about playing with shit.

Some do this as part of distress, and will fuck up their heads being told its a sexual thing.

Its all so wrong.

AIBU thread. Which could really do with some informed opinion/experience of concepts like the 'pornographic over sharing'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3701737-Teen-advice-makes-me-worried?msgid=90363045#90363045

Ugh, if I'm venturing into AIBU with the sex industry cheerleaders I need a bloody drink.

None of the pages work for me, just purple and then the CEOP link at th e very bottom. Anyone else?

That is absolutely dreadful!
Yeuch.

Maybe my auto brain bleach works :)

Mind blown 🤯

Felching, anal, fisting, shit play? Not wise decisions for adults... so market them to children like normal parts of sexuality?

Wtf has the world come to?