Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

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Someone, or several someones, looked this over and decided that it was appropriate material to present to children via the school system.

Perhaps it's the palsy language, the banter, and youth talk. Makes the authorities feel they're not au fait with current trends and are therefore out of the loop with what's appropriate.

And they get told that yes, of course 13-year-olds are at it like knives. Fisting, felching, faece-ing and arse fucking left right and centre. So of course we have to go into great detail and enormous depth, just to provide them with information about what they're already doing, you know, to be safe.

They never write a whole series of leaflets about how to say no. About how girls' boundaries are sacrosanct. About how many, many girls are saying no, wanting to say no, need to say no. And how to withstand coercion, peer pressure and the expectations produced by 24/7 pornography. All the actual things that are happening.

Not, isn't it fun to play with each other's shit.

And much like smoking both are illegal if you are 13.

Again, who approved this, and what is the procedure to launch disciplinary action against them? Mermaids call the police every time someone looks sideways at Susie Green. Time to push back.

Actual potential question a 13 year old might have - If we're kissing what am I meant to do with my tongue that isn't awkward?

Not actual potential question a 13 year old might have - So should the felching come before or after the fisting?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7490415/Children-young-SIX-given-compulsory-self-touching-lessons.html

Same bloke wrote this. Are we spotting a pattern here? Despite him advising Warwickshire schools for several years, I can find no evidence of his qualifications for writing their sex education. Not on his website, not on another eduction website he's on.

Bizarre.

What process does the school district use to determine who is and is not qualified to produce material for them to use in teaching students? Is the process "this one offered to work for free Gregg's pasties"?

I have seen nothing of his qualifications to be writing school programmes.

I have only just realised that teachers are not running their own lessons anymore but money is being shelled out for non-teachers to do it!

What sort of guff is this and when did it start?

As for him writing content, and the awful stuff he's written.

As for the anal, and fisting, ffs! Positive sex? Negotiation?

Should anal ever be advocated. I have spoken to teens who seem to be under some sort of mythical delusion, and yes, they have done triple science and had top results.

These are clever young people who believe the vagina is the same as the anus/rectum?

I had to point out risks, and possible serious harms that could result from anal.

Why is it being presented as an equal choice?

When is vaginal sex not good enough? I have never understood why.

Just because gay, doesn't mean anal either, that also seems to be a fixed myth.

The whole thing is monstrous. Why are parents with such young ones not raging at MPs about this?

I read all the literature on content when mine were that age, and there was nothing like this in there!

Warwickshire - hang your heads in shame; you don't know your boundaries and are facilitating child grooming. Unbelievably gross.

The year was 1992. In my classroom all us 13 year olds knew what felching was and used to bring it up in PSE lessons to try and embarrass our teachers. We thought it was disgusting and I am entirely sure none of us, male or female, were doing it or had any interest in doing it.

Almost 30 years later I've had male friends who've been pegged, heard scatting anecdotes and known fans of fisting (all lesbian) but I've never, never known anyone who admitted to felching.

If it's being presented to school kids as a legitimate sexual act they might fancy doing that's bonkers and extremely wrong.

That is so far out beyond the other side of unbelievable, I can’t even...
How did anyone involved in education think this is a good idea?
Seems it’s written by a dodgy person, but lots of well meaning people who should know better would have been involved in approving this. They should be sacked!

Yeah what the fuck. These practices are straight out of porn. I am guessing there will be an informative piece about strangulation along soon and how girls who let their boyfriends strangle them are way more empowered than the prudes that don’t. FACT. Maybe also something informing you to examine your prejudices for not wanting anal and just getting over them.

Those guidelines have nothing to do with what 13 year olds might be considering trying and everything to do with what some porn addicted bloke who's old enough to be their dad jerks it to the thought of them trying.

I hope every parent at that schools removes their child immediately, there is no way that can be introduced to 6 year olds in a platonic way.
Nor is it appropriate to teach UNDERAGE children no doesn't mean no. I appreciate if teenagers want to have sex, they will and better informed than not. However this encourages rape culture. At 13 I was still secretly playing with dolls!!

It also crosses the line from informative to inappropriate

I've heard some of that before, that if anal's sore just use more lube!!! Ffs!

It was on that awful sex clinic tv doc. The girl was complaining it was making her sore and the clinic advisor tokd her to use more lube???

No, no, no. If it hurts, bloody stop!

Vaginas are naturally lubed, and don't need products to make sex work well. If you are in a loving and considerate coupling that is (barring any medical issues of course).

Makibg all this mainstream and normalised, absolutely no risks highlighted, irresponsible porn, and why isn't it illegal.

If a 12 yr old is obsessed with masturbating to porn they need help, seriously. What sort of life have they had that this is how they spend their evenings?!! Abhorrent.

Report it. Report it. Report it. All decent parents should be removing their dc from schools if this is whats now acceptable and approved content for education.

Wtf? The pedophile agenda is out in the open.....

I have no words that adequately describe my anger.

I am definitely not a prude - but I had to stop reading.

Fisting??? Scat??? Sucking your own bodily fluids out of your partner and geared to 12 year old girls?!?

They even talk about sex with a girl and a “girl” talking about how much porn she watches and normalising it. WTF?!?

They even said that sex under 16 is “technically” illegal.

I’m shooketh.

If it’s illegal (technically or otherwise) why target children with fetish topics?!

This is liberal feminism's fault.

Yes, I know there's plenty of blame to go round ,but the movement that purports to speak for the interests of women and girls while actually enabling stuff like this should come in for a very large share of it.

When you take power dynamics out of your analysis of heterosexual sex, you end up with "well, if 13-year olds want to have anal sex they should be given the instructions to do it safely" as a reasonable seeming solution.

When you're all rah-rah sex positivity, and you don't talk and don't even have the language to talk about all the ways in which women often come to regret sex or feel that it damaged them, then of course you're going to end up at "why shouldn't a 13-year old girl have anal sex?" There's no proper theoretical or conceptual basis for objecting to it in liberal feminist thinking, other than "consent," and no 13-year old thinks they are too immature to consent. You can gesture at the life experience which tells you this is a bad idea and will hurt girls but without the proper analysis (radical feminist analysis) to explain how it can hurt girls it will all get written off as "prudishness" or even jealousy.

We need to be able to talk about the ways in which sex (as it's constructed under patriarchy) is often damaging to women, that even when they've "consented" to it women often find themselves mildly to severely traumatised after the fact by experiences of sex where they were too young, where they were paid, where they weren't in good mental health to start with.

When the only language you have to talk about sex that damages women is "consent" then you can't analyse the damage caused by any of those situations, other than in cases where they're clearly rape - but there are many sexual situations that are clearly not rape but still cause harm.

Fuck "sex positivity." It hurts so many girls.

Yep, all of that. Class analysis that takes power dynamics between men and women (and between kids and the adults writing this shit) into account or GTFO of any claim to be a feminist.

There are no such thing as governors in academies. There may be local governing boards but they are incorrectly named and have no legal responsibility, which lies in the hands of the academy trustees. Handy, no?

School governors in maintained schools oversee PHSRE, but the degree of oversight depends on the competency of the Governors. However the LA behind this website should be collectively charged with child protection offences. It’s up to individual schools if they pass on what the LA does.

My 13 year old does sport in the evenings or her homework while online supervised by us. Her choice of birthday was a scavenger hunt. I would die before I let her be exposed to this at fucking school and I mean that. It will make those that aren’t doing it feel maybe they should be if school endorsed. She’s at a girls school naively hope this might mean the staff don’t take this approach.

I could actually cry at this. I have 2 little girls.

Can we coordinate some kind of complaint about this from a large group of us? Maybe start a petition?

It is so horrendous I can barely believe it’s real. It’s horrifying.

No wonder parents want to send their kids to private school if this is the offering in the state sector.

Fisting?
Anal?
Scat?
Negotiating sex?

What the actual fuck is this? Why is this aimed at 12 year olds? Why is it all about girls adjusting their expectations and not boys? What message does that send?!