Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

I dunno SirVix

The point I was (clumsily) trying to make is that the pp about speaking to his daughter was inappropriate. Made me regret mentioning her

Oh right, so anyone advocating particular masturbating practices to those barely out of nappies, and promoting the idea they are somehow wrong thinking to prefer a female do intimate exams on them, as girls, and that porn is empowering, doesnt raise massive red flags for the parent of a poor child of his???!!!

What is up with some unboundaried porn suppprters

He believes this stuff, of course he'll be forcing it on his own dd, and its abuse...plain and simple, right in front of your nose, in plain view.

If the country took a vote on the content of sex education, this would definitely not be the outcome. There needs to be aafeguards pit in place around any dc that have been exposed to this vile rot masquerading as 'education'. More aesopian language.

Jimmy saville hid behind charity mate whilst raping young girls and women whilst given free access to some of the most vulnerable (gosh that sounda familiar).

Wolf in sheep's clothing amongst the sheep.

Yes, I agree Bernard, his daughter is an irrelevance, but it makes it that bit more shocking. I had assumed he was probably a gay, childless male tbh. No skin in the game. The fact he does have a child is pretty horrifying, given his beliefs, but it doesn’t need to go beyond knowing he is a parent.

Antibles, I am taking the liberty of pasting in your post of 8.57 a.m today because it is such an incisive, clear-sighted analysis of the mess we have got ourselves into with porn. There have been some brilliant contributions on this thread, which I have bookmarked. Thank you to the wonderful posters of FWR. Antibles's, in particular, is incredibly important.

Antibles said:

Yes. The damaging thing is that we already have a generation who have grown up with internet porn-addled men and have started having sex and think that degrading sex acts direct from porn are perfectly acceptable, as we see on threads arguing about porn on other boards. The age split in attitude is really obvious.

Psychologically, these young women are highly invested in not changing their minds about this because to admit they have been allowing men to degrade them throughout their sexual life would naturally be very painful mentally. So they continue to bat for the porn-positive team and prefer to think old gimmers like me are just behind the times prudes.

We badly need a new educational intervention for the next generation. Zero tolerance of this anti-women, child-endangering pornified shit. Letting girls know there was a time (all the rest of human history I daresay) when young men didn't have erectile dysfunction unless they were coming on your face or sticking it up your arse.

The concept of widely available pornography is incredibly new. The permanent photographic image is less than 200 years old. Men are showing us that, as a class, they can't control themselves when it comes to porn, they are like toddlers let loose in a new sweet shop: they are consuming, consuming, consuming and are making themselves sick. Then, to continue the metaphor somewhat distastefully, vomiting up the consequences all over women and children.

Its entirely appropriate to raise red flags around this man, especially as he has a dd that he is even closwr to and has more power and control of.

Yes, raise red flags about him being a parent full stop, I meant his dd as an individual should not be our focus, but he absolutely should.

I do wonder about the thought processes of men in general who have daughters and also know the sorts of things women are becoming expected to do in bed as standard. Doesn't it give them pause for thought at all? Are they okay with their daughters being asked for anal, being choked and having men ejaculate on them in ever more inventive ways? I realise some people's mental compartmentalising skills are impressive, but do they extend this far?

Thank you softday. I learn so much here on FWR.

Such an important thread. Yet again we have schools and local authorities taking 'advice' from individuals with no child psychology / development / education / safeguarding experience. Nothing other than a gruesome fascination with extreme sexual acts that involve pain and humiliation and a sinister desire to present these acts to children as 'acceptable' and 'sex positive'.

I do hope that the relevant police forces have been contacted about individuals pushing this stuff at children and, as commented upthread, that a very close examination is made of their hard drives.

I hear you.

Someone needs to make his dd focus of concern!

Just bumping this thread in the hope it may reach more eyes. It is such an important topic.

Badger's sister has it. I can't imagine anyone not going "what pedo wrote this?" unless they've already been groomed themselves. And yes, think of the poor non-creep teachers being expected to deliver this shit to their classes. It would be a competition to see who'd be cringing harder, them or the students. And yet someone nobody at Warwickshire (which I automatically wrote as shite again, my subconscious is really insistent about this!) noticed anything wrong. Do they just not read anything before approving it?

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/04/study-reveals-64-teenage-girls-abusive-relationships-10685754/?ito=cbshare

64% of teenage girls have experienced abusive behaviour from their boyfriends. Sexual assault in school against girls has gone up be more than 500% in Warwickshire. And yet no one is joining the dots and thinking that there might be some correlation between encouraging porn (which is what this programme is doing) and boys abusing girls.

And is it any wonder that there is also a 500% increase in girls seeking to identify out of being female? Girls get abused, attacked, assaulted and controlled. No wonder so many of them are desperate not to be girls

Agree Orchid
I feel very bleak about this. My lovely daughters, having to go out into this world.

I find myself wondering if the emergence of all this violent and humiliating sex is due in part to the outlawing and increased social unacceptability of domestic violence? It's now explicitly forbidden in the kitchen, as it were, so it's moved into the bedroom.

Antibles i wonder what the stats are, have domestic violence rates fallen ? I doubt it somehow, almost all of it goes unreported.
I do agree though that this is an acceptable way of hating women. Call it kink and you can do anything. Since my teens there has been a seismic shift in misogynistic violence, from overt social placing of women as inferior, to covertly expressing the exact same sentiments, but forcing women to be complicit. Thus being able to convey the impression that, just like our Jonny, you are a caring man who likes women and girls really, while metaphorically, and literally, spaffing all over them.

Fair point SirVix I don't know the stats. I also wonder if men are resentful of or threatened by women's increased economic power.

Call it kink and you can do anything

Yes. "Kink as rohypnol" perhaps.

So agree with the last two points. The violence and ritual humiliation of women involved in extreme porn (now being offered to our children as acceptable by creepy men like Jonny) are so evident yet the porn advocates completely drown this out - even on here.
This whole debacle just shows how powerful these people have become and how bloody uncritical the education world are to fund this dangerous toxic crap.

64% of teenage girls have experienced abusive behaviour from their boyfriends. Sexual assault in school against girls has gone up be more than 500% in Warwickshire. And yet no one is joining the dots and thinking that there might be some correlation between encouraging porn (which is what this programme is doing) and boys abusing girls

No-one is joining the dots over the increased in nenntaln health issues in girls. I saw one article with quotes from a London mental health Trust hcp who gave examples and made the link clear between boys'sexual violence/coercion and girls attempting suicide or self harming but it's very quiet elsewhere.

I also have dds in this age bracket and can't quite believe what I am reading day in day out and I come to the realisation that very few people in the country really give a shit about their wellbeing or outcome in life.

I absolutely concur with the last few posts my girls are 10 and 13. Porn has become a hateful thing I find it so sad that young boys will be corrupted by this and try to enact it out on our lovely girls. I look at my 10 year olds male friends they are so adorable hate to think what they will be exposed to in the next few years. Anyone involved in that industry or the promotion of it should be very very ashamed.

My girls are 12 and 14. I have felt physically sick after reading some of the stuff posted. Who would want to be a girl now ? No wonder so many want to identify as boys.

Wasn't it Warwick university where students incited rape on other female students?

Yes, the rape scandal was at Warwick Uni.

I was disturbed that the lead investigator was the head of PR, who I have met a few times. He certainly wasn't an appropriate choice.

An article on the RY programme from 2012. Wonder what happened to the original project lead?

www.channel4.com/news/lets-talk-about-sex-website-answers-teens-questions

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