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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

637 replies

Whatisthisfuckery · 25/09/2019 20:46

I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

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HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 18:41

Orchid

Yes, just rolled out the stock response to 'All About Me'
Not responded to the various points I raised, including Jonny's credentials.

That's how seriously they are taking this.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 30/09/2019 18:45

Wtf is wrong with some folk

Normalising and desensitising works, and it works well.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 30/09/2019 19:56

yes, they have a process issue here

how did they end up commissioning this chap? he doesn't seem to have many discernable qualifications for the job, and has in fact produced and contributed to 2 execrable and wholly inappropriate programmes, thus amply demonstrating that concerns about his qualifications are justified

what are WCC going to do to make sure this doesn't happen again now that they're in charge of commissioning SRE?

Datun · 30/09/2019 21:00

We take our responsibilities to our children extremely seriously and we would never allow an inappropriate programme to be used in our schools. As such we are taking the opportunity to review the material

We would never allow dodgy material, but it seems we have - oops.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/09/2019 22:13

So the follow up should be "great, what is the timeline for that review and when and how will the results be shared with the public?"

LangCleg · 30/09/2019 22:17

we would never allow an inappropriate programme to be used in our schools

How about material that does nothing to stem a 521% increase in minor-on-minor sexual assaults?

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 22:47

Noting all of this for my reply.

I hope previous posters in Warwickshire will contact their MPs also.

littlbrowndog · 30/09/2019 23:22

Just saw this on twitter from dr Jessica Eaton not sure how relevant it is here but anyway

Did you know that the numbers of teachers being struck off in the UK for sexual abuse of children is at the highest rates it has ever been?
Govt released statement about it a few months back. Over a third of all teachers being struck off are for sexually abusing kids.

ShouldIStayOrShouldIRun · 30/09/2019 23:38

Sorry, I'm an occasional lurker and have just come across this thread and am now panicking!!!

I vaguely recall going to a meeting last year in dd's school where they mentioned a new 'all about me' program which was replacing 'spring fever'. They said it was all very age appropriate and nothing to worry about.

They didn't mention anything at all like whats been said on here.

What the hell have they been teaching my dd (6)????

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/09/2019 23:42

Maybe have a carefully worded chat with your dd, Should? I'm assuming you're not in Warwickshire.

(Had to correct myself from writing Warwickshite twice, see what happens when you realize that a council is up to no good?)

ShouldIStayOrShouldIRun · 30/09/2019 23:59

Yes we are in Warwickshire, dd is in year 2 at the local primary.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/10/2019 06:48

@ShouldIStayOrShouldIRun
Speak to the school. Find out what she has been taught and will be taught this scholastic year and also ask if the “learning” she received has been consolidated or reiterated in other lessons. You do have a right to pull your dd out of sex Ed so exercise it and let all the parents know what you discover.

Dd didn’t get any sex Ed until yr5 and we are not in Warwickshire. Do take solace that if your dd has been taught about sexual feelings in one single lesson that it will now be largely forgotten.

2BthatUnnoticed · 01/10/2019 07:51

Sorry if

Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...
2BthatUnnoticed · 01/10/2019 07:54

Sorry if it’s been covered, but why on Earth would a child or teenager need to see this definition? Shock

I feel for girls growing up now... they are being groomed to think degradation = empowerment.

Not on my watch (for the girls in my life at least).

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 01/10/2019 07:57

Said it wasn’t empowering

There is a rumoured game which is similar but involves a biscuit

The biscuit isn’t empowered either

OrchidInTheSun · 01/10/2019 07:59

@ShouldIStayOrShouldIRun - they're two different programmes. This thread is about the one for teenagers. Here's a link to one about All About Me:

Safeguarding in UK Schools - new Statutory Guidance + existing classroom programme teaching 6yr olds to masturbate www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3700556-Safeguarding-in-UK-Schools-new-Statutory-Guidance-existing-classroom-programme-teaching-6yr-olds-to-masturbate

IfNot · 01/10/2019 08:06

So that's what it is? A game of soggy biscuit using a human instead of a biscuit?
Ew.
You know what, I had a fairly wild and free youth. I had a good time. I'm not averse to something a bit out of the ordinary. But surely sexual acts are supposed to be pleasurable in some way for both (all) parties?? It's possible that being a human soggy biscuit IS fun for a tiny group of women, but in general, I would call that a very niche act that literally no child needs to know about.
Also I'm definitely getting the feeling that female sexual pleasure is no longer considered important...

IfNot · 01/10/2019 08:07

X post Rufus!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 01/10/2019 08:30

The main purpose of these guidelines seems to be to groom girls into accepting the idea that sexual pleasure is something that they shouldn't be expecting - they should be deriving satisfaction from their partners being pleased, and orgasms, much like female HCPs, are for selfish girls who ask too much of others.

It's lie back and think of England for the woke generation.

IfNot · 01/10/2019 08:38

Women, know your place on your knees with spunk in your eye...

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 01/10/2019 08:40

It's lie back and think of England for the woke generation

It is isn’t it?

You don’t want a strange man to touch you, even if they’re a HCP?

Maybe you should think about why you feel that way? (The inference being you should work on it and change it)

I think that’s what shocked me most of all. It shows such blatant disregard for women’s rights to have opinions about who touches them

I understand that Jonny has a daughter btw

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/10/2019 08:48

It’s lie back and think of England for the woke generation.
I think your whole post is spot on @TheProdigalKittensReturn

I understand Johnny has a daughter btw ☹️

I was talking to a mum of a preteen girl the other day about the trans issue in schools. She is 100% happy for transgirls to change with the girls, go to the loos and vis versa. She absolutely doesn’t think this system will be abused or that children, who are already vulnerable will be more so. Can not understand that there could be an issue if girls have been raped / abused or having a period, miscarriage etc. We all got into hairy situations when we were younger apparently and female bodily functions are normal. I do wonder what people like this would make of this policy.

Datun · 01/10/2019 08:50

He talks about '...pornography and adult sex sites'. What's the difference? Or is it an attempt to make pornography sound less disgusting?

And yes, the HCP thing is awful. Grooming girls into regarding their bodies as public property, right down to eliminating their choice of who can touch them.

Antibles · 01/10/2019 08:57

I feel for girls growing up now... they are being groomed to think degradation = empowerment.

Yes. The damaging thing is that we already have a generation who have grown up with internet porn-addled men and have started having sex and think that degrading sex acts direct from porn are perfectly acceptable, as we see on threads arguing about porn on other boards. The age split in attitude is really obvious.

Psychologically, these young women are highly invested in not changing their minds about this because to admit they have been allowing men to degrade them throughout their sexual life would naturally be very painful mentally. So they continue to bat for the porn-positive team and prefer to think old gimmers like me are just behind the times prudes.

We badly need a new educational intervention for the next generation. Zero tolerance of this anti-women, child-endangering pornified shit. Letting girls know there was a time (all the rest of human history I daresay) when young men didn't have erectile dysfunction unless they were coming on your face or sticking it up your arse.

The concept of widely available pornography is incredibly new. The permanent photographic image is less than 200 years old. Men are showing us that, as a class, they can't control themselves when it comes to porn, they are like toddlers let loose in a new sweet shop: they are consuming, consuming, consuming and are making themselves sick. Then, to continue the metaphor somewhat distastefully, vomiting up the consequences all over women and children.

TruthOnTrial · 01/10/2019 08:57

Someone needs to take Jonny's daughter to one side and ask some serious questions about her underage sexual practices/grooming