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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Best wishes to Kate in court today

416 replies

happydappy2 · 18/09/2019 09:47

I really hope the outcome is fair to women and upholds free speech.

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owlonabike · 18/09/2019 21:24

Thanks for PMs, people.

FannyCann · 18/09/2019 21:26

Thanks to all supporting Kate. I'll be digging a bit deeper before the month is out.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/09/2019 21:42

Aww shucks... I’ve gone to bed with a large glass of port (works a treat!)

TerfTalk · 18/09/2019 21:51

I'm really confused. Can someone write a short factual statement on what happened today?

Melroses · 18/09/2019 21:51

That port sounds lovely Fekko - hope your flu subsides soon.

Melroses · 18/09/2019 21:56

I'm really confused. Can someone write a short factual statement on what happened today?

This is Joanie's summary of the court proceedings. H wasn't there, but did go to the court building earlier.

"Right, I'll do a thread on the #katescottow hearing but I'm going to keep some things back because I don't get paid for attending these hearings or pretty much any of the research I do - sorry, but times is tough - and gal needs wedge

Kate pleaded guilty*. The trial date is set for two days from 6 Feb. The prosecution asked for a delay as the counsel they wanted on the case starts a 6wk hearing on the original date of 20 Jan but were denied.

Discussing timings defence said there is quite a lot of disclosure pending. They don't feel there's much for prosecution witness to say as it's all in the tweets but because of extensive bad character that would extend time required. #katescottow

Defence said they would be making a bad character application but can't bring it until they've seen the relevant material. Referenced multiple previous convictions. #katescottow

Here's a link to the court report of the Miranda Yardley trial that hasn't been published before (plus the first ROGD story that was spiked) joaniwalsh.com/uks-first-transphobia-trial-thrown-out-trans-defendant-says-it-was-the-worst-10-months-of-my-life/…"

Melroses · 18/09/2019 21:57
  • This should have read NOT guilty
LangCleg · 18/09/2019 22:10

A "bad character application" is asking the court for permission to introduce evidence about a witness's bad character. Discrediting a witness or defendant for stuff that isn't specifically germane to a case isn't allowed unless counsel has sought permission.

DrLouiseMoody · 18/09/2019 22:37

I don't know what's going on but want to stress that I'm completely behind Kate, and will donate very soon (payday on Fri!). This isn't a competition, and it benefits us all to support each other. It is outrageous that one individual can invade our lives like this with their bullying tactics.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 18/09/2019 23:01

Late to this thread but another sending support to Kate and her children. This case is important to all of us.

Off to google things that can't be mentioned.

Joisanofthedales · 18/09/2019 23:42

I will be supporting Kate and Louise with donations tomorrow. I hate what this person is doing to them and other women.

WelshMoth · 19/09/2019 05:47

Same. Want to buy a spade. It's time to increase our support. Can anyone please DM me a link.

Amalfimamma · 19/09/2019 06:09

lousie

Seeing as your hole is dug, will you be closing it and sending people to dog Kate's hole seeing that that is much more urgent?

CadburysTastesVileNow · 19/09/2019 06:54

Have found the right hole and made it a little bigger. Thanks all for bringing this back to the top

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/09/2019 07:06

They were in the court and then just left. Noone knows why and it's all very wierd

Intimidation.

Or not understanding court procedure?

The bad character thing is interesting - I hope it is allowed as it is very relevant in this case. Would this also allow the defence to point out that Hayden is somewhat of a vexatious litigant?

CodenameVillanelle · 19/09/2019 07:17

Kate's hole was started by her husband who didn't describe the hole in very supportive terms. I wonder if that has put some feminists off the idea of helping to dig. It shouldn't, but you know.

CodenameVillanelle · 19/09/2019 07:18

Big Steph understands court but seems to only enjoy grandstanding and bullying. Presumably there wasn't enough opportunity for that today as it was just a plea hearing. I'm not sure if they even needed to be there as a witness rather than a complainant.

Pricedrop · 19/09/2019 07:28

I'm not sure I have been digging the correct hole, in the correct place. I want to make sure that my digging efforts contribute to the size of the correct hole. is the hole you speak of, looked after by an owl?

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 19/09/2019 07:29

I'm not sure if they even needed to be there as a witness rather than a complainant.

From Joani Tweets:
They don't feel there's much for prosecution witness to say as it's all in the tweets

Big Steph probably got their nose put out of joint when they realised theyre not centre of attention and won't get to play the poor hurty feelings card.

Amalfimamma · 19/09/2019 07:32

codename

If anything that should make them want to dig more seeing as she doesn't have support at home

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 19/09/2019 07:51

is the hole you speak of, looked after by an owl?

no, that's a different hole

I found the correct hole by searching for Kate's name (Kate Scottow) and 'crowdfunder'

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 19/09/2019 07:55

So if I'm getting this right:
Kate's 'hole' needs a more 'spades' in an effort to "fight-the-power"

So if someone went to the place where the holes are, that big crowded field, and they searched out the one that is trying to "fight-the-power" they may just find it?

TirisfalPumpkin · 19/09/2019 07:58

Please excuse density. Who’s having a bad character application made against them - Kate or Hayden?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/09/2019 07:59

Hayden

TirisfalPumpkin · 19/09/2019 08:04

Cheers fine

Going to contribute to the hole once I get my tool consignment at the end of the month cos right now I’ve only got a trowel and I want to offer a spade.

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