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McKinnon Twitter - dancing on grave GIF

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TwigletsQueen · 13/09/2019 18:57

Sick b***d.

mobile.twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1172560435683495943?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 13/09/2019 21:59

We can't and won't be railroaded or bullied into accepting that sex doesn't exist. RM is male and ALWAYS will be. No matter how hard he stamps his feet and demands to be regarded as otherwise. Misgendering does not exist and we are not incorrectly sexing him.

CaptainKirksSpookyGhost · 13/09/2019 21:59

The problem with this HQ is that now instead of having things confined to a thread, you'll going to get a lot of posters constantly using "him" across the board.

It's made your job a bit harder hasn't it.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/09/2019 22:00

The thing that gives bullies their power is the fear and capitulation of everyone around them.
That is where it comes from.
Do you WANT to give power to misogynist bullies like Mackinnon, MNHQ? Because that is what you are doing.

You don't have to delete people who call Mackinnon a man. It is not against the law. It is a choice you are making, which harms women.

Backintheclosit123 · 13/09/2019 22:00

I am Sparticus.
Fuck this shit.

aliasundercover · 13/09/2019 22:01

... and it was for calling out a hateful person for spitefully celebrating the death of a decent feminist.

Oh well

NotTonightJosepheen · 13/09/2019 22:03

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TheBigBallOfOil · 13/09/2019 22:03

If, which is not admitted, McKinnon is a woman, I absolutely think “she” can be a dick.
Dick is fine. McKinnon is a dick. Also a penis, cock and a wanker. Also a toilet. Especially that

Doyoumind · 13/09/2019 22:06

The thread is going to be zapped though, isn't it? Then we don't have a record of the dick's behaviour. Well, I do have a screen grab though.

Propertyofhood · 13/09/2019 22:06

Isnt the 'misgendering' rule about being 'respectful'.

Do you honestly think McKinnon is worthy of that MNHQ?

CaptainKirksSpookyGhost · 13/09/2019 22:07

The thread is going to be zapped though, isn't it? Then we don't have a record of the dick's behaviour. Well, I do have a screen grab though.

It is, BUT as you say the evidence can be added to any other relevant thread / threads.

CaptainKirksSpookyGhost · 13/09/2019 22:08

Isnt the 'misgendering' rule about being 'respectful'.

It is, that's why we can Call Yaniv a man and Karen white a man.

hazeyjane · 13/09/2019 22:09

Having left Twitter, I hadn't heard that Magdalen Burns had died...how awful.

I am fucking stunned by this piece of crassness, and stunned that I am stunned to be honest.

littlbrowndog · 13/09/2019 22:10

It’s been seen round the world through martina Navrátilová retweet

Been seen for the spite it is

ImGenderfree · 13/09/2019 22:10

Michelleoftheresistance has so eloquently said what I feel.

BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 22:11

So -rapist. Okay to call him a man.

Serial harrassment of ethnic minority women who won't wax his balls. Okay to call him a man.

Posting gifs about dancing on a young woman's grave, on the very day that young woman dies. Apparently not okay to call him a man.

Talk me through that one, if you would, mumsnet - because I am not following your modding logic at all here.

CaptainKirksSpookyGhost · 13/09/2019 22:11

@FlissMumsnet

Can we get a list of people we must respect in regard to Genderism and people we don't have to.

Why can vaniv be call a man but not McKinnon?

Is it based on who the Mod at the time respects?

It's not too much to ask for some consistent rules in this regard.

Backintheclosit123 · 13/09/2019 22:12

It’s been seen round the world through martina Navrátilová retweet

That's brilliant.

Flowers Martina

Aberhonddu · 13/09/2019 22:12

Who's doing the reporting, @MNHQ?

Actual mumsnetters with an established posting history, or twitter trolls with throw-away accounts?

Either way, shame on you for capitulating to this institutionalised bullying of women for speaking the truth about a raving misogynist who has posted gifs about dancing on a young woman's grave, on the day she died
Very relevant post by Barbara Strozzi
As a pp said earlier @MNHQ
Your moral compass is seriously fucked up up if the mods on duty tonight think that misgendering a vicious, cruel, fantasist is worthy of deletion.
MISGENDERING A PERSON is not a crime, neither is correctly sexing a person.
Magdalen Berns died today and that piece of dogshit is celebrating and @MNHQ is on the case and deleting posters for MISFUCKINGGENDERING a male cyclist that is expressing great delight that a charismatic, eloquent, truthful young Lesbian is dead. Lesbian by this definition being the cunty type, not the penis bearing type.
MNHQ probably are under pressure, but what the fuck do MNHQ think is happening to Women and girls all over the world when they're being silenced.

littlbrowndog · 13/09/2019 22:13

Did I say fuck it

McKinnon is a MAN

ThatCurlyGirl · 13/09/2019 22:13

Excuse my language but this is the work of an absolute cunt.

While I believe this about RM, I would not celebrate RM being ill let alone dying, yet it's apparently ok for them to do it.

Just when I think RM couldn't be more cruel and self centred.

Does RM really think people are so stupid that it isn't clear what the gif was about? Is RM so stupid they didn't full well know the connotations of it?

Honestly every time I think RM could not sink any lower they prove again and again they are a bully.

RM if you read this you are making my trans friends' lives harder by labelling people who called you out on this "transphobic".

It's not transphobic to be conscious of the ramifications of that post on this day and to think it's outrageously nasty.

RM constantly refers to their academic record, so they are smart enough to have known what the gif alluded to. They can't have it both ways.

I'm disgusted. As are my trans friends, who RM does NOT speak for.

hazeyjane · 13/09/2019 22:13

Stop fucking parting your ass cheeks to it. and yes, this.

SmellbowSpaceBowl · 13/09/2019 22:13

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pombear · 13/09/2019 22:13

Just sticking our beaks in to request the misgendering stops - the thread is already full of holes so if we can keep using initials or names rather than pronouns that would be great.

You're succumbing to a bully.

A bully, and the bully's 'friends' (aka TRA monitors of these threads - which, if the threads weren't so important, why would they be rushing to report 'misgendering'? Surely the bully's identity isn't so fragile that a few women on a mumsnet thread 'misgendering' wouldn't threaten that identity?).

A bully who wants to demand people deny reality.

A bully and their friends who want to demand people say the 'right' words about them 'or else'. Say the word. Say the pronoun. Say it. Or else. (Or else Mumsnet will do our job for us and delete you, you fucking uppity women, denying us our pronouns).

A bully who wants people who disagree with them to 'die in a grease fire'.

A bully who celebrates the death of a woman who disagreed with them.

And you want to appease them and their friends by playing with initials and names so they aren't 'misgendered'?

Today, Mumsnet, of all days? Can you not read the room?

ClosdesMouches · 13/09/2019 22:14

Is it based on who the Mod at the time respects?

This appears to be the case.

Doyoumind · 13/09/2019 22:14

Martina has retweeted a screen shot of the gif Smile