Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

[BarbaraStrozzi]

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:



The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

[RufusthebewiIderedreindeer]

barbie

Heh heh heh

Yous in trouble now

[ThePankhurstConnection]

Thuskateers

Brilliant

[ThighThighOfthigh]

Fanny Fighters, there's a thread in Lone Parents re maintenance that is just awful. There's one poster who just shoots everything down with NAMALT - why are women so anti women!?

[truthisarevolutionaryact]

I'm sure it's time for a bump for this.
What with the tedious derailers and those seeking screenshots from all those nasty feminist comments....

[TinselAngel]

Definitely.

[BarbaraStrozzi]

Good bump.

Also reminding people there's a handy "hide thread" option if you don't feel the topic is one on which it's possible to engage constructively.

[popehilarious]

When someone's still posting the same old posts for 3 hours after saying they're not going to discuss it... Is that likely to be someone that wants to contribute to a solution or someone that just wants to derail a thread?

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

I'm mostly amused that pointing out that Brits don't say "bathroom" unless we mean a room with a bath in it has been followed by attempts to sound as if one is having tea with the Queen.

[popehilarious]

An individual poster posted 158 posts on a single thread about trans people a few weeks ago. (I didn't count them individually, no - there are easy ways to tot up).
They seem very keen to repeat their views but I'm fairly sure of what they think by now so I'm not sure I'll learn much more from their posts.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

My view is that if someone hasn't clarified their views the first 15 times they were asked to it's unlikely that further inquiries will yield any additional information.

[Ereshkigal]

When someone's still posting the same old posts for 3 hours after saying they're not going to discuss it... Is that likely to be someone that wants to contribute to a solution or someone that just wants to derail a thread?

They did exactly this on the last thread I was on with them with too.

[BarbaraStrozzi]

Time for a Bunbury bump.

[ArranUpsideDown]

I strongly recommend both the article and the recommendations from:

The Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) [that] this month released an action plan for public figures on the receiving end of trolling.

It has the backing of Gary Lineker, Sadiq Khan, Richard Osman, Rachel Riley and others. The premise is to not “feed” the trolls. To not bite. The notion that re-tweeting, sub-tweeting, screen-shotting or otherwise publicising the hate is the aim of the trolls. Hate is their currency. It does little but enhance their own self-satisfaction and will attract like-minded trolls to their ugly crusades.

The action plan instead recommends not engaging, blocking, reporting and, if the conduct is unlawful, seeking help.

thecrimehub.com/uncategorized/here-come-the-trolls/

I agree with the non-subtweeting etc. on (say) Twitter but I think the use of such Tweet images within MN is more acceptable tho' I'm prepared to be wrong about that.

Don't Feed the Trolls: A Practical Guide to Dealing with Hate on Social Media www.counterhate.co.uk/

[truthisarevolutionaryact]

Found this lurking on page 6 . Shows just how busy this board is despite the attention of all the monitors and those tediously lecturing women in how bad we are at feminism

There's a pertinent post from ArranUpsideDown just below this one.

[truthisarevolutionaryact]

Above this one

[WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop]

ArranUpsideDown
Thanks I will look at the article later.

The posts that were deleted on the Trans Chat thread were not offensive at all, just vaguely sarcy.
They're still trolling here and getting away with it.

truthisarevolutionaryact
You are right, it has been busy lately.
I didn't realise the thread had slipped.

This thread needs to stay prominent.
So bumping this a little more.

[WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop]

A thread has gone missing.

I had dinner, I came back and now it's gone.

[WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop]

Anyone?
The title was something like "please help me find out more"
with a very long opening post.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

It's gone now? Was still getting comments last time I looked.

[LangCleg]

Thread message:

Message from MNHQ: Thanks to all those who replied in good faith - we're concerned about the OP's motive so this thread has been zapped while we look into this one further.

It was an um... interesting one.

[WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop]

Thanks Lang.

[BarbaraStrozzi]

Ah. Good. I had hidden it (didn't think OP was in good faith), but it's great to see MNHQ have acted on this one.

[HorseWithNoFucksToGive]

I can't believe that anyone took it seriously.

[Ali1cedowntherabbithole]

I can’t believe anyone was dedicated enough to read it. You have a lot more patience than me.

[BernardBlacksWineIceLolly]

oh, I wondered where that had gone. i fear the OP would still be sucking up the time of well meaning women if MNHQ hadn't intervened - good on them for doing so