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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

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BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 08:33

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 16/06/2020 18:35

Yep. Bad acting, too.

JackiFazaki · 16/06/2020 19:25

I hope this is the right place.
Binder issues.

JackiFazaki · 16/06/2020 20:05

It's been taken down, as not in the spirit of civil debate.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 17/06/2020 09:25

What happened to the thread about the Body Shop and it’s anti-trafficking campaign? I wasted some time writing a serious response and there seemed nothing controversial.

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/06/2020 13:16

Fishing thread re partner - don't bite.

poisson428 · 17/06/2020 13:19

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 13:20

I hear the fishing is excellent at this time of year.

Thelnebriati · 17/06/2020 13:25

AIBU to think that the FWR board should have a pinned tally of how many threads are removed for being goady fishing expeditions?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 13:27

YANBU. A breakdown of the increase since Rowling came out as GC would be interesting too. Bread, circus, and sceenshot harvesting.

PurpleHoodie · 17/06/2020 13:27

You Are Not Being Unreasonable.

PumbaasCucumbas · 17/06/2020 13:34

Vicky - I thought so too, reads like a script. I replied in good faith just in case

Kit19 · 17/06/2020 13:37

Time was you got a better class of fishing....

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 17/06/2020 13:38

'Oh dear I am such a klutz'.

Yup.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 13:41

I'm honestly out of ways to try to stop people from biting on obvious hooks.

Michelleoftheresistance · 17/06/2020 13:47

Vicky you really, really need to write the full biography of Bunbury.

I swear to keep you supplied with enough gin and cake to fuel it, but seriously, there is a social duty for this. We have to know more about Rita and Veronica Lion. They sound like possible connections of Vita Sackcloth-Vest to me.

PumbaasCucumbas · 17/06/2020 13:51

Nearly time for a new thread Wink

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 17/06/2020 13:53

They're persistent little buggers, aren't they?

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/06/2020 14:06

Vicky you really, really need to write the full biography of Bunbury.

I swear to keep you supplied with enough gin and cake to fuel it, but seriously, there is a social duty for this. We have to know more about Rita and Veronica Lion. They sound like possible connections of Vita Sackcloth-Vest to me.

You're not the first person to have spotted the astonishing similarities between the Bunbury/Lion relationship and Sackcloth-Vest/Woooolfff.

I am currently ploughing my way through the thousands of letters between Bunbury and Veronica Lion (the latter was a keen gardener, so too many of the letters tend witter on endlessly about how keen she is to give Germaine a good fuchsia (at least - and Veronica's handwriting is often difficult to read - I think that's what they say) and will report regularly on new information to add to sum of our knowledge of our icon.

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/06/2020 14:48

Loving what the MN mod has written on that now-deleted 'child and partner' thread.

Datun · 17/06/2020 14:51

What did the write Vicky. I couldn't bring myself to post.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 14:51

Joss again?

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/06/2020 14:52

Datun

"Message from MNHQ: Hi all, we've had a look behind the scenes and this thread is a load of nonsense. And OP, knock it off - we know who you are."

Datun · 17/06/2020 14:55

Ha!

Whoever it was, they couldn't have been more obvious.

Like a bloody French farce.

I'm such a klutz/oops there go my bloomers.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 14:58

And yet people keep responding.

Michelleoftheresistance · 17/06/2020 15:01

Nice one HQ Smile

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