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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

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BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 08:33

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 17/06/2020 15:05

Excellent response.

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/06/2020 15:10

And yet people keep responding.

I think we need a stronger warning on Bunbury 5 (which is coming up very fast) - along the lines of "LOOK - if people keep re-posting this up the page, they're warning you. And if someone mentions Bunbury on a thread, it means 'DO NOT RESPOND! FISHING exercise."

JackiFazaki · 17/06/2020 15:15

Please do that, some of us mainly lurk and enjoy the most excellent contributions here. I found this thread by accident a while back, and it's been helpful in keeping me sane, when GFs arrive in the early hours..

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 15:21

Problem is not everyone reads these threads so some probably just wonder wtf we're on about.

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/06/2020 15:23

I intend to continue using Bunbury 5 as a means of furthering knowledge of our great icon, Germaine Bunbury.

As my research takes me further into her correspondence and diaries (like Anne Lister, GB had developed a code or 'cypher' to prevent the more (cough) intimate and personal details from being read by those prone to pearl-clutching.

This, obviously, slows down my feverish reading research, but I will aim to provide everyone with the juicy bits most salient points and information.

CaraDune · 17/06/2020 15:30

Looking forward to reading more about Bunbury's love of fuchias, Vicky.

Also Dance's invaluable oral history of Bunbury's actual conversations.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 17/06/2020 15:44

Just by way of comment, in the way that GB’s home had many rooms, so the Feminism board has many spare closets. Closets where a second-best winter coat or a box of old fishing lures might be safely stashed.

bishopgiggles · 17/06/2020 17:06

That one was so obvious, I actually enjoyed reading it. My favourite is ones that are clearly OPs posted for the same reason (fishing) but are just left dangling in the wind with no responses. There's one somewhere where the temptation was great to be the first to respond with some biting comment but I'd rather it became a competition to see how long it can be left dangling while it slowly drops down and down the page....

In the new thread can we have the advice to make a renewed effort to refer back to the OP and the topic in hand? Nearly every goady thread ends up talking about toilets no matter what the OP actually asks and it's boring.

Also perhaps the advice to AS the OP if unsure. It's illuminating. Sometimes there are a few days of comments on random threads.

Our posts on these boards represent our time and space and we should perhaps be mindful about who we hand them over to.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 17:13

"Message from MNHQ: Hi all, we've had a look behind the scenes and this thread is a load of nonsense. And OP, knock it off - we know who you are."

Grin answers on a postcard!

PumbaasCucumbas · 18/06/2020 17:58

Hey, I’m less experienced at this than many but goady thread about Woman face?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 18/06/2020 18:02

Hard to tell if that's one's goady or just very very new to all of this. We're getting a ton of newbies because of Rowling speaking out.

TinselAngel · 19/06/2020 23:43

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Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4
nauticant · 19/06/2020 23:50

Would that be the poster minimising sexual activity in very young children?

Melia100 · 19/06/2020 23:58

I'm just not very good at picking it up. So the literal red flag appearing in this thread is helpful (yes, I am that clueless).

TinselAngel · 20/06/2020 00:09

The one asking where the Terven meet.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 20/06/2020 10:29

Just walk up the hill and turn left at the cauldron!

BaronessBrighterThanYou · 20/06/2020 11:10

By the way - what happened to '3 strikes and you're out'?

I was wondering about that myself vicky..

BaronessBrighterThanYou · 20/06/2020 11:12

I want to be Datun when I grow up..

Better join the queue then.

DickKerrLadies · 20/06/2020 12:28

@BaronessBrighterThanYou

I want to be Datun when I grow up..

Better join the queue then.

Grin

I'll take a number.

testing987654321 · 20/06/2020 12:30

I'm just not very good at picking it up. So the literal red flag appearing in this thread is helpful (yes, I am that clueless).

You're not the only one, often the comments on this thread are too subtle for me to have a clue what anyone's talking about.

BaronessBrighterThanYou · 20/06/2020 14:36

Phew! Not just me then; I sometimes feel like I'm in the room with the grown ups and luckily none of them have asked me exactly what I think I'm doing here..

BaronessBrighterThanYou · 20/06/2020 14:37

Waves to tinsel - great flag

VickyEadieofThigh · 20/06/2020 14:45

This should be post 998 - just a heads up that we'll need a new version imminently.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 20/06/2020 14:46

@BaronessBrighterThanYou

Phew! Not just me then; I sometimes feel like I'm in the room with the grown ups and luckily none of them have asked me exactly what I think I'm doing here..
Abso-fucking-lutely!!!!

I’m not actually in the room in most thread! I’ve a glass pressed up against the wall

Can’t hear much at times...but that may be the wine

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