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Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

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BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 08:33

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 26/04/2020 15:28

Thank you, that saved me from some mental load I could do without!

popehilarious · 24/05/2020 23:11

Advanced Search is a wonderful thing. Thanks to @TheProdigalKittensReturn for prompting the obvious. Ooookay lol whut dafuq.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/05/2020 23:22

The funny thing is that there are multiple people that could apply to, but in every case doing a quick search helps shed some light.

FloralBunting · 25/05/2020 00:01

It's like a magic portal, revealing all sorts that then seems so obvious.

NotBadConsidering · 09/06/2020 10:07

It’s been a while

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 09/06/2020 19:14

I was just thinking about the Divine Bunbury and she appears. Just like the Room of Requirement. If it was a famous feminist with a short temper and extensive library.

BaronessRadishFemish · 09/06/2020 19:21

Great. Can relax here.

CaraDune · 09/06/2020 19:24

Settles in with the collected works of Germaine. (In fact, of both Germaines.)

TehBewilderness · 09/06/2020 19:29

Always a timely reminder.

popehilarious · 10/06/2020 13:10

How strange, an OP who was claiming to definitely have a trans man for a child who was previously a lesbian but definitely male was on the same day posting that "my daughter[...] says she is attracted to gay women but doesn’t feel like a woman herself. she’s mentioned before she might be trans ftm but could she be non-binary?"

CaraDune · 10/06/2020 13:14
Grin

Still, I don't feel I've wasted my time. Re-iterating the fact that women have their own sex drives, driven by attraction towards features which are rooted in biology, not amorphous gender feelz shaped by a male-gaze misogynist world view in which women's sexuality is whatever men want it to look like as part of the man's sexual fantasy... it's always useful to have a platform to spell this out.

And if the OP is (as I suspect) some confused tumblr teen, having straight women say in very short, readily understandable words I. DON'T. DO. VULVA. may actually sink in.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 10/06/2020 17:05

I hear the three broomsticks is a nice pub. Anyone fancy a pint?

CaraDune · 10/06/2020 17:08

I've always fancied trying firewhisky, Scrimpshaw.

I'm finding Advanced Search very revealing these days. Especially because it turns out that when someone's a bit of a goady arse on one thread, you look and it turns out they're a goady arse everywhere. The sort of person who could start a bar-room brawl in a room where they were the only inhabitant.

littlbrowndog · 10/06/2020 17:15

Very true

popehilarious · 10/06/2020 18:43

I feel Mumsnet needs a new emoji that means "^ advance-search this user!! ^ "

Pertella · 10/06/2020 18:49

You wait all day for a TRA and 3 turn up at once.

How odd that they all claim to not read this board and yet they all just happened to be here at this specific time though!

DickKerrLadies · 10/06/2020 18:56

@popehilarious

I feel Mumsnet needs a new emoji that means "^ advance-search this user!! ^ "
Hmm is the closest we have, I think. But I find I use that one a lot on this board.
EmbarrassingAdmissions · 10/06/2020 18:58

@DancelikeEmmaGoldman

I was just thinking about the Divine Bunbury and she appears. Just like the Room of Requirement. If it was a famous feminist with a short temper and extensive library.
I was wondering what had happened to Bunbury!
ItsLateHumpty · 11/06/2020 00:03

I feel Mumsnet needs a new emoji that means "^ advance-search this user!! ^ "

I would love this! But I don’t think we’ll be allowed to deploy on FWR cos special rules about not scaring the visitors.
I like the phrase ‘don’t poke the bear’ and liken it to ‘don’t feed the trolls’ or ‘beware’ so maybe we could deploy the Bear emoji?

AnonymousIsAWoman · 11/06/2020 13:58

Just another little bump. The screenshot fishers are out in force at the minute.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 11/06/2020 14:06

So very many new posters this week! A veritable smorgasbord of arseholes calling us racists, the faux naive and mainsplainin'.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 11/06/2020 14:07

I’ve been on Twitter all day to the detriment of other work. I’m thinking of taking a brush and a big bucket of bleach next visit. It’s like one of those old halls men have been using for obscure hobbies, where the toilets are yellow and sticky and there’s a ridge of grime around the sink.

And now I’m back home for a cup of coffee but strange people keep ringing the doorbell trying to sell me any old bit of rubbish they found in the back of the hall cupboard.

DickKerrLadies · 11/06/2020 14:08

@wrongsideofhistorymyarse

So very many new posters this week! A veritable smorgasbord of arseholes calling us racists, the faux naive and mainsplainin'.
It's almost as if something has got them rattled. Can't imagine what.
TheProdigalKittensReturn · 11/06/2020 14:16

Well that was fun! Post vanished before I could advise Hannah and Jack or friends not to take a baby to the pool at the moment what with there being a pandemic and all.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 11/06/2020 14:16

DickKerr they're sending in the flying monkeys. Waves and waves of them. They're absolutely shitting themselves.

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