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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

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BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 08:33

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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WrathofFaeKlopp · 24/03/2020 21:58

Poem thread deleted

boatyardblues · 24/03/2020 22:30

You’re being ever so generous describing it as a poem.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 24/03/2020 22:51

Sure you're right there, Notterf. It's almost like the grown ups have gone off to sort out important matters and there's no one to tantrum at.

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/03/2020 18:44

What was the deletion message on the poem thread? Did the OP not like the way it went?

PertEllaTitsahoy · 25/03/2020 18:48

Message from MNHQ: Troll

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/03/2020 19:52

Ah I see. Thanks. Smile

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 25/03/2020 22:51

www.mumsnet.com says

Does anyone know what this means?

WrathofFaeKIopp · 05/04/2020 23:19

Bumping this thread, just in case.

TinselAngel · 09/04/2020 10:25

It's poppers open season it would seem.

nauticant · 09/04/2020 10:41

Looking a bit more widely, has anyone read threads elsewhere on MN where a woman seeking advice an apparently abusive relationship attracts a very surprising number of comments calling the woman all sorts of names and standing on the side of the male partner? It feels like something has shifted signficantly.

HorseRadishFemish · 09/04/2020 10:42

You mean ploppers, yeah..?

Or are we all on the drugs now?

PertEllaTitsahoy · 09/04/2020 12:31

nauticant I've seen threads where the DH has gone out on the piss promising to be home at a certain time and then goes incommunicado until the following day. There are always posters that pop up telling the wife that she is controlling for being angry that hes just fucked off like that and that she is being left to deal with the kids etc. the following day.

JellyFishSquish · 09/04/2020 12:52

nauticant do you mean the no means no unless it is a woman's bum thread? Where slapping is not hitting, if it is a woman's bum? Yup.

TinselAngel · 09/04/2020 13:00

I did mean ploppers!

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 09/04/2020 13:07

It feels like something has shifted signficantly.

Has it, or has it always been like this and it's just more visible at the moment?

Winesalot · 09/04/2020 13:13

It feels like the ploppers lack imagination though.

Winesalot · 09/04/2020 13:14

They seem to all be young parents these days.

nauticant · 09/04/2020 13:25

The particular thread I had in mind wasn't that one PertEllaTitsahoy nor was it the one mentioned by JellyFishSquish. It was a financial abuse thread. But there seemed to be various others too where an OP posting for help gets a telling off.

nauticant · 09/04/2020 13:29

By the way, JellyFishSquish following your comment Where slapping is not hitting, if it is a woman's bum you might want to have a listen to The Reunion tomorrow on Radio 4 at 9am. It's about the feminist protest at Miss World 1970.

JellyFishSquish · 09/04/2020 14:00

...seems to be a lot of threads with the same woman-hating/woman-blaming comments. Hmmm

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 09/04/2020 15:10

Currently the risk of dv is, it seems, much greater than usual.

I suppose this might mean a concomitant increase in fear, denial and attempts to victim-blame as a means of defense.

Langsdestiny · 09/04/2020 16:08

I heard that one nauticant, quite astounding, his back pedalling was something to witness.

Thelnebriati · 26/04/2020 11:16

Quick bump for the faux naif influx.

OhHolyJesus · 26/04/2020 11:37

We always go another round when there's something in the news or something from government. Predictable.

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 26/04/2020 13:16

Oh yeah, bit of a wide eyed one there. Screengrabber in the house!