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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

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BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 08:33

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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nachthexe · 12/01/2020 20:37

In the Rockies Grin I do have central heating, but I don’t want to go outside. It’s about -35 with wind chill at the mo and I am waiting for deranged dd2 who is out in it to come home. Should really get out from under the blanket though.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 12/01/2020 20:39

Test

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 12/01/2020 20:40

Workin okay for me but the threads I'm on list does seem to be clearing quicker than usual.

TheTigersBride · 12/01/2020 20:42

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis

OMG WotchaTalkinBoutWillis transphobic much!

Wotcha I recall seeing GirlDownUnder randomly lobbying the transphobic accusation at other posters when the post was nothing of the kind. As GirlDownUnder is "gender critical" I assume it's just mud slinging in the hope it will discredit someone she disagrees.

AnyOldPrion · 12/01/2020 20:46

New rules? Suppose I’d better go re-educate myself.

Bunbury is truly an inspiration, is she not.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 12/01/2020 21:40

Wotcha I recall seeing GirlDownUnder randomly lobbying the transphobic accusation at other posters when the post was nothing of the kind

Ah right, thanks, that makes more sense if so as it was just so utterly bizarre Grin

Creepster · 12/01/2020 22:09

It has been mild here so far but for one cold week in November. The sasanqua camellias are blooming and the narcissus are a foot tall. The daylight is lasting noticeably longer and now we are expecting another spell of sub freezing weather.
Disruptors on the Bunbury disruptor thread? Say it ain't so.

TinselAngel · 12/01/2020 22:14

I've only had my big coat on a hand full of times so far this winter.

TruthOnTrial · 12/01/2020 23:39

Oo Tinsel I could only dream of that! Like to bare as much as possible as often as possible, botheration to having to don big coats to keep out the cold.

HorseWithNoTimeForThis · 13/01/2020 15:07

Something weird is going on: Mumsnet sent me an email about half an hour ago which said that a poster called AbsolutelySpliffing has posted on a thread I'm on (being hit) and when I went for a look that poster (who does exist) hadn't posted at all on the whole thread. Plus those emails don't normally mention posters by name anyway, they usually say "someone" has posted on a thread you are on.

Glitch City Arizona?

Doyoumind · 13/01/2020 18:11

I only get emails for mentions so not had anything weird myself.

FleetsumNJetsum · 13/01/2020 18:27

I got one like that a while back. The user name (real) was in the subject heading, but "someone" was in the body of the message

HorseWithNoTimeForThis · 13/01/2020 18:51

Yep that's how mine was and I've had a second now, and same outcome.

GirlDownUnder · 13/01/2020 23:42

HorseWithNoTimeForThis

Snap! Two emails for two seperate threads, referring to the same poster ‘replying to the thread...’

Weird.

And yep a real poster and a poster who has name checked me in the past, but isn’t a poster on the threads mentioned.

Odd.

Doyoumind · 13/01/2020 23:46

Could this be because someone name changes to post on a thread and then name changes back so their other name straigth away so at the time the email is sent it is not their name as it appears on the thread iyswim?

HorseWithNoTimeForThis · 14/01/2020 08:43

Maybe but it's still odd that names are suddenly mentioned rather than the usual "someone" has posted..

And now this morning I've had an email telling me there is a new post on a thread I'm watching. But I'm not watching it - I am posting on it.

Something is awry.

Al1cewith2020vision · 14/01/2020 23:13

I've been having issues with TIO/TIW and dear Germaine for a while. This post is by way of a placemark.

At least it's a tiny bit less dark in the mornings now. Night all.

GirlDownUnder · 15/01/2020 02:21

Thought this thread worth highlighting - I’ve not had time to read all of the linked report, but from what I’ve seen it looks interesting.
Not a Bunbury matter, but probably not worth a separate thread in FWR.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/politics/3794473-How-MN-users-informed-House-of-Commons-debates-last-year

houseofcommons.shorthandstories.com/mumsnet/

GirlDownUnder · 15/01/2020 02:30

HorseWithNoTimeForThis and Al1cewith2020vision

The issue you're having with this thread / the JK Rowling thread I'm also experiencing.

I've literally just posted on this thread and it's nowhere in my TIO Confused

HorseWithNoTimeForThis · 15/01/2020 09:27

Great to know it's not my imagination or that I've inadvertently broken Mumsnet.

Agrona · 17/01/2020 05:19

Read this in "Thief of Time" by Terry Pratchett and thought is might be pertinent to this thread:

"That was either a very complex piece of thinking on your part, Clodpool, or you were just trying to overextend a metaphor in a rather stupid way. Which do you think it was?

ArranUpsideDown · 18/01/2020 23:07

Remind me - has Bunbury previously expressed a liking for romantic poets like Keats or a dislike for parts of his works that include the musings of a goady 'brain-sick shepherd-prince'?

www.bl.uk/collection-items/first-edition-of-keatss-endymion

ScrimshawTheSecond · 18/01/2020 23:29

'a trial of my Powers of Imagination and chiefly of my invention ... by which I must make 4000 lines of one bare circumstance and fill them with poetry’

4000 lines, geezo, it was a long first post.

TinselAngel · 18/01/2020 23:35

TLDR

ArranUpsideDown · 18/01/2020 23:44

4000 lines, geezo, it was a long first post.

TLDR

It is, isn't it? It was a wall of text that has garnered @ 130 replies so far. Very effective and rewarding for OP of that thread.