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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

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BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 08:33

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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nauticant · 21/12/2019 11:50

Shame that thread went. It backfired so much that I can't help but wonder whether it was a GC OP on a black ops frolic.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 21/12/2019 11:55

I still have it open on my browser - is it useful to save a screenshot?

C8H10N4O2 · 21/12/2019 12:12

Shame that thread went. It backfired so much that I can't help but wonder whether it was a GC OP on a black ops frolic

It seems that most of it is archived.

LangCleg · 21/12/2019 14:41

Feminists don't report those threads.

LangCleg · 21/12/2019 14:42

If the vote hadn't been embarrassing for the OP, I'd bet my bottom dollar it would still be there.

TinselAngel · 21/12/2019 15:06

I reported it. I understand the argument for sunlight, but I don't think MN should be giving probable domestic abuse perpetrators narcissistic supply.

I'm not suggesting that MN deletes threads on my say so though!

DetroitDReindeer · 21/12/2019 17:19

Ever read a thread and go...nah...I have too many problems to interact with this individual...but

Arrrrrggggg

Kit19 · 21/12/2019 21:44

Definite Bunburying going on on AIBU tonight

MIdgebabe · 21/12/2019 21:46

Yip, so clear even I managed to walk away

Kit19 · 21/12/2019 21:47

Yep definitely not engaging

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:03

Don't feed!

DeeZastris · 21/12/2019 22:21

Fishing expedition

BarbaraStrozzi · 21/12/2019 22:27

My goodness, it's busy tonight. We've got goading mansplainers and disingenuous allegedly female sealions, and a highly dubious thread that I think comes under the heading of "Reddit: that happened". May have to engage in some thread hiding.

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DecemberDays · 21/12/2019 22:29

Posting here instead of there... A few people have stated the obvious so no need to state it again.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:34

Isn't that thread a TAAT? I suppose that's OK if the goal is to tell off women.

DecemberDays · 21/12/2019 22:38

I have hidden it - it is triggering and enraging both at once and I would prefer to get some sleep

FloralBunting · 21/12/2019 22:54

I saw a post on Twitter, quoting a particularly dunderheaded TRA, with the comment "I can't be bothered" and the comment thread underneath was lots of weary people saying "Fuck it, let's just have a day off, they'll all still be batshit tomorrow" and that's kind of how I feel about the numptues right now. Bored with the twattery.

FloralBunting · 21/12/2019 22:55

Oh,hi again,btw. Rather embarrassed to read such lovely messages after my earlier tactical withdrawal.

littlbrowndog · 21/12/2019 23:24

🍷 floral

nauticant · 21/12/2019 23:37

Give yourself a phased reintroduction Floral. Beware of wading into the fray. Nutters abound.

Creepster · 21/12/2019 23:51

I was cheered to see that not even the women who identify as pro trans feminists, whatever that is, did not like what the OP was doing to their daughter, nor how they spoke about their wife.

BarbaraStrozzi · 22/12/2019 11:52

Quick Bunbury reminder. When you see a new thread by a shiny new poster, Bunbury points out that it is always worth asking yourself "would this be likely to pop up on Reddit: this never happened"?

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nauticant · 22/12/2019 12:23

Normally I think "I wonder which thread they're referring to?" In this case I'd clocked it big time.

popehilarious · 22/12/2019 12:48

Several very unbelievable things seem to be happening to new FWR posters this week.

Kit19 · 22/12/2019 12:53

Yep! Hmm not falling for that