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Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 4

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BarbaraStrozzi · 13/09/2019 08:33

Thought it was time for another of these. I'll just cut-and-paste the opening of the last thread:

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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AnyOldPrion · 01/12/2019 19:09

I bow to the Bunbury Fount of Wisdom.

She’s a marvellous mentor. And I’m still only on one strike, despite having a post removed last night.

TinselAngel · 01/12/2019 20:38

It's gone quiet now. Maybe a certain poster is off counting lesbians...

Agrona · 01/12/2019 21:15

How can you tell if they are ‘real’ lesbians and should be included in the count? Do they receive a certificate?

Are the only lesbians the Gold Star variety? Who issues the Gold Stars? Is there a Gold Star elf who has the special duty of creating and dispatching them?

So many questions.

TinselAngel · 01/12/2019 21:21

I think the deciding factor is if they're hateful bigots or not.

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 21:49

Gonna check my emails in case 8 got any strikes

Jeez like being back at school

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 21:51

Nowt.

Safe for another 6 weeks

TinselAngel · 01/12/2019 21:58

Woohoo! 🐶

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 22:01

💪

Agrona · 01/12/2019 22:06

Congratulation on not having any strikes littlbrowndog.

It would be lovely if people did not weaponise the strikes against clever, concerned women.

Tinsel ,the current Right’s Activist definition would mean I am a hateful bigot as I believe no one can change sex and no one should be coerced into sex with someone they do not find attractive.

TinselAngel · 01/12/2019 22:08

Agrona, nice try but as an outspoken trans widow I think you'll find that I'm the ultimate bigot.

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 22:10

Lols tbh am much more frightened of the thighs than the strikes

Walking the line here

Agrona · 01/12/2019 22:12

“Bows down to Tinsel”.

You rule, Oh Empress:

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 22:14

Blinking bigots the 2 of you

Can’t decide who is worse

Will think on and spin a diamond or something

Agrona · 01/12/2019 22:17

I await your decision litlebrowndog. Do I sit on the naughty step while you ponder?

TinselAngel · 01/12/2019 22:34

Will the winner be in the Guinness Book of Bigots?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 01/12/2019 22:36

🤣

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 23:01

Will be in the international book of top big OST’s

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 23:01

Ffs bigosts

littlbrowndog · 01/12/2019 23:03

Or the bad book where can be spelt 😔

LangCleg · 01/12/2019 23:21

Will the winner be in the Guinness Book of Bigots?

No. Not a safe space for the adjudicators.

TinselAngel · 01/12/2019 23:25

Norris McWhirter (sp?) did alright and he was an actual card carrying Fascist.

FloralBunting · 04/12/2019 21:50

The time has come for me to bid you all farewell. I am no longer willing to participate in a site for parents where the actual real life concerns of parents about safeguarding, consent dismissal, cult conditioning and secret lobbying aren't even a concern for those who run the website.

I am sure MNHQ won't be sorry to see the back of me, and no doubt they can continue to pretend that their 'guidelines' are something designed to keep the conversation going instead of just a great big stick being used to punish by proxy. But you need to be aware that assessing the cult aspects of the movement I won't name lest I get deleted again, will get you deleted and a strike now. Or maybe they won't, depends if you get reported for it and if it's decided that the moon is in the right part of the sky and there's a T in the day of the week or not.

I wish all you fiery, strong women well. Keep at it for as long as you can stand it, and know that if the time comes that you need to step away, others will take up the baton. Feminism is about all women, standing together for all women. I learned that from reading it on FWR, quite some years ago, and it changed my life utterly, and helped me come to terms with the appalling male violence and control I have experienced, and even come to terms with my same-sex orientation without shame.

Pull, sisters. We're going to get there.

TinselAngel · 04/12/2019 21:52

❤️ Floral

popehilarious · 04/12/2019 21:58

Sad Angry Flowers

Fallingirl · 04/12/2019 21:59

I’ll certainly miss you Floral, but understand perfectly. So we can no longer analyse the bigger picture of what’s going on?

Well, personally I think totalitarianism has been ushered in under guise of wokeness, so the rules disallowing discussion of that, would be quite ironically fitting.

Hope to see you elsewhere.

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