A Woman's Place is at Conference 23 September 2019 Brighton

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(At one point it says it is for Labour Party Conference delegates and later on it says it is a public meeting.)

A Woman’s Place is at Conference
Public Meeting in Brighton
Monday 23 September 2019 (Venue to be announced)
Doors open at 6:30pm, for 7.00pm start.

Woman's Place UK (WPUK) invites Labour Party Conference delegates to hear speakers discuss the WPUK Manifesto, focusing on women's issues. Half the tickets are available for FREE to Labour Party members.

Speaker biographies:
Dani Ahrens Founding member of Brighton Pride, a lifelong Labour activist, tweets as @rebelyarns
Onjali Rauf Founder and CEO of 'Making Herstory'
Kay Green "Socialist policy must always be based on reality." Kay Green is a socialist activist, supporting gender-critical voices on the political left.
Kiri Tunks Woman's Place UK founder (Chair)

Woman’s Place UK was founded in September 2017 to ensure women’s voices would be heard in the consultation on proposals to change the Gender Recognition Act. We had 5 demands and we didn’t expect the campaign to last more than 3-4 months.

Thanks to the support and actions of thousands of people all over the UK we had a big collective impact on the debate and, while we don’t expect to hear the results of the consultation yet, we know that the government has heard the voices of thousands of women.

At the same time, the debate has exposed the poor state of women’s rights in the UK. We have decided therefore to develop a broader campaign on the foundations we have built.

We will keep up the pressure on the government around the GRA and on councils and organisations to uphold equality law.

But there are other battles we need to fight too.

So we have made some New Year Resolutions to help us broaden the campaign in 2019:

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-at-conference-tickets-71716155953

How about a petition calling on Jeremy Corbyn to protect women's rights?

This, tweeted by Fair Cop, is interesting...

Almost as if intimidatory behaviour were against the law. Who knew? t.co/i6j74rgtqq

@WomansPlaceUK #WPUKLab19

news.sky.com/story/jess-phillips-man-held-after-smacking-windows-of-mps-office-and-shouting-fascist-11820162

It's almost like Charlotte doesn't really know what she's talking about...

Oh dear Charlotte, maybe women who don’t centre men aren’t all evil after all?

I wonder what Charlotte was terrified of?

Being punched in the face by an infuriated activist?
Being kettled on stairwells?
Phoned in bomb threats?
Lunatics hammering on and kicking windows and screaming while Charlotte tried to give a perfectly legal pov?
Being spat on and blockaded while politically captured police watched and did nothing to help?
Getting arrested for sitting on a chair in a public place with a fact on her t shirt, or being suspected of possessing thoughtcrime opinions?
Being doxed and someone ringing her employer trying to get her sacked?
Someone threatening to rape/hang/kill her for her opinions?

Er…. no, Charlotte, those would be the actions of the group you're representing. The people you're 'terrified' of and want to 'call out' just disagree with you and think women are human too, you're quite safe.

I wonder what Charlotte was terrified of?

Reality

Here's a thought, how about standing with your sisters, mothers, grannies, aunts, nieces, daughters?

Will it take a woman’s death for the police to actually step in and do something?

I doubt that even one of them murdering one of us will get the police to step in. We're female, remember? We don't count as people to these thugs nor to the police.

What this screaming and window banging makes me think of is Orwell's "Daily Hate". We are the handmaids' Goldstein, the scapegoat to distract them from fighting their male real oppressors.

A man has been arrested on suspicion of a public order offence following an incident outside the constituency office of the Labour MP Jess Phillips, in which the suspect is reported to have banged on the windows and shouted “fascist”.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/26/man-arrested-outside-office-of-labour-mp-jess-phillips

Arrested, you say?

The police didn't just stand there and watch him bang the windows and shout fascist?

Why the difference in police responses do we think?

Why is one a public order offence and another is not?

How interesting - I thought the police asserted that banging on and kicking windows for 2 hours while shouting at people on the other side was a perfectly law abiding thing to do?

Oh dear, sounds like west midlands police need to get in contact with west sussex police. they're accidentally treating banging on windows and shouting as a crime when any fule kno it isn't

I haven't kept up with all of this thread, but think I am right in saying that someone asked about the WEP response to this.

Well, even in nobody did the Brighton WEP attended the meeting and have written about how shocking the behaviour was. And guess what, some of their members are now commenting as thought WPUK bought it on themselves, where were the trans voices, what about trans women's rights and so on.

But at least one other WEP branch has seen the post and said they will show videos of the protestors at their next meeting and discuss what happened.

www.facebook.com/wepbrighton/posts/2305535689556938

And this is WPUK's statement about what happened womansplaceuk.org/2019/09/26/a-womans-place-is-at-conference/

And they have started uploading the transcripts of some of the speeches.

I hadnt realised the venue was that of a BME group. So that adds a whole other dimension of entitle young white people thinking it okay to act with violence and the police to stand by. What does this say about the political understanding of the protestors - a group of baying white people at the door of a centre for Black and Minority Ethnic Communities.

They are so far up their own entitled arse they cant see how they are seen.

That's not bad from WEP. Wasn't expecting it. And somw good replies taking to task the TWAW crowd.

Has the MP for Brighton, Carolibe Lucas, said anything or been contacted yet?

WEP Brighton is much more WPUK than queer af. Just sayin.

Wouldn't it be great if this spurred WEP to support actual women?

(not holding my breath mind. Whatever the local branches think, the centre seem determinedly wokey)

guess what, some of their members are now commenting as thought WPUK bought it on themselves

First rule of misogyny: women are responsible for what men do.

Any WEP member who doesn't understand that victim-blaming is a tool of patriarchy used to oppress women should have her membership revoked.

To say that "some of their members are now commenting as though WPUK has brought it on themselves" is a misrepresentation of what was said.

The one WEP member who isn't Brighton branch and who didn't attend the meeting who questioned the meeting content has been given links to the speeches to review. I can't see any members there victime blaming.

womansplaceuk.org/2019/09/25/dear-labour-party/

From Kathleen Stock:

"A morning chuckle (read to end). As I've been tweeting, on Monday night I attended #WPUKLab19. To get in, I was screamed at, filmed from close quarters, called scum, tapped on back of the head, we couldn't find entrance. etc. One of screamers wore skull mask over mouth and nose/

General noise deafening - shouting through megaphone, 100 people chanting, was intense. Later on, they spent hours kicking windows. ANYWAY just got email. Did I know that masked person I "denounced".. "has autism and uses face-protective garments primarily for sensory reasons"?

You really couldn't make this shit up😂😂 (And in brief anticipation of anyone indignant beneath the line/ further emails - someone exceptionally close to me has an Autism diagnosis. It doesn't give them, or anyone else, an excuse to act like a fascist, matey)."

twitter.com/Docstockk/status/1177484320165941248?s=19

Uses a skull mask for sensory reasons - when standing in a screaming, banging crowd for two hours. Righto. Selective sensory sensitivities then.

Many of the women they denounce - and threaten and abuse and women in that crowd they harassed personally - had disabilities, what about the wheelchair user whose access they blocked? What slack was cut for them? What about the women who want single sex spaces because they have autism and can't remember socially compelled lies in their language and perceptions? What about the women with disabilities who need single sex hcps?

Always the demand that excuses are made and consideration given - and only EVER to them. Never two way. Never reciprocal. They freely appropriate the language of inclusion, but only ever in the cause of childish, self centred entitlement.

I am genuinely lost for words with that, do they truly believe the crap they're spouting, or do they think we're complete idiots? Possible third option is neither but they've learnt to weaponise a claim of disability and no-one's dared call them on it yet.

do they truly believe the crap they're spouting, or do they think we're complete idiots?

They don't give a shit what you women think, as long as they are the very centre of the universe and the most oppressed ever, that's all that matters.

It really is the Oppression Olympics right now.

From Julie Bindell. Will she get a reply?

"This is David Doig, a member of LP staff harassing and intimidating women going to WPUK meeting on Monday evening. @angelarayner he works for you. Do you condemn his intimidation of women?"

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