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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Should I raise this with School?

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Paraballa · 05/09/2019 10:56

My Dd is year 6, so kids aged 10/11. They have a trip to the local hospital coming up where they will learn about first aid and practice the recovery position, using a defibrillator, etc.

School has explicitly said that skirts are not to be worn as they're unsuitable for role play on the floor.

I am Hmm about this as I've worn skirts for similar courses and not had a practical issue, plus I feel like they're being rather pearl-clutchy about the possibility of a quick flash of knickers from little girls in front of their peers.

I'm tempted to email school about it as they say if skirts are worn the girls can't take part.

DD currently only has skirts. I can buy School trousers, she wants some anyway, but I'm not happy at the general message being sent out.

I wasn't sure if this was the right forum but it feels like a feminist issue to me.

OP posts:
MargueritaBlue · 06/09/2019 20:34

truthisarevolutionaryact
LolChippingInLowCarbing
1st aid trained and years of working with children and safeguarding. A quick google shows all sorts of school training with girls in dresses and skirts and boys in shorts!

I really do wonder what the agenda is for the posters on here and the other current skirt thread spouting all their exaggerated nonsense about impractical skirts and dresses are.

Do you (general you doing this) think it makes you a better feminist? That you are proudly showing how you don't kow-tow to the patriarchy? Because it doesn't- it really doesn't.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 06/09/2019 20:46

Sorry MargueritaBlue. I don't understand what point you're making?

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 06/09/2019 21:33

The trainers shouldn’t be spending half the time trying not to look at exposed gussets (& more)

Hmm Y6 Hmm

MargueritaBlue · 06/09/2019 21:53

ruthisarevolutionaryact

SorryMargueritaBlue. I don't understand what point you're making?

Sorry , I was not being clear. I quoted your sensible post as an example of, well being sensible, as opposed to the ones proclaiming that skirts and dresses are awful and impractical.

saraclara · 06/09/2019 21:58

I give up.
I've posted again and again (with links) that trainers offering first aid and CPR courses ask participants to wear trousers. It's in everyone's interests, where adults are having to physically handle other adults or children on the floor.

Not everything is a feminist issue. Sometimes things are just common sense.

FannyCann · 07/09/2019 06:04

Totally agree saraclara and also Carpetburns

The hospital will have asked for this for perfectly valid reason. Just do it ffs and be grateful your daughter is having the chance to learn an important life skill and have a nice, interesting day too. She might even be inspired to be a nurse or a paramedic when she grows up.

XXSex · 07/09/2019 07:31

Or a doctor

FannyCann · 07/09/2019 08:13

Yes, sorry, I forgot that one.

ThatCurlyGirl · 07/09/2019 08:20

I went to an all girls school yet a letter went to all parents saying we had to wear tights with our skirts because sitting cross legged (as we did in assembly etc) without tights was "distracting to male teachers."

We were in year eight. Felt like saying if you can't stop yourself looking at a 12 year old girls underwear then maybe don't be a teacher.

Nice to condition us from an early age that it's up to us to stop men perving on us. Insulting to men too as its saying they simply can't control themselves.

And that was only in the 90s!

In your case though OP it does sound like this is a practicality thing and as she wants trousers anyway then you may as well get some.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 07/09/2019 10:10

I've posted again and again (with links) that trainers offering first aid and CPR courses ask participants to wear trousers. It's in everyone's interests, where adults are having to physically handle other adults or children on the floor.

Not everything is a feminist issue. Sometimes things are just common sense.

But that isn't the point. They haven't asked everyone to come in trousers. They have asked everyone to come in uniform but not skirts. When many (most?) girls' uniform will be skirts.

FlyingOink · 07/09/2019 13:29

They haven't asked everyone to come in trousers. They have asked everyone to come in uniform but not skirts.
OP wasn't that clear on that, to be honest. Originally saying trousers and insinuating the child doesn't own a single pair, then suggesting they would have to be uniform trousers and wondering about contacting the school to ask if PE joggers were ok. Looked to me like the £3 cost of extra trousers wasn't riling the audience up enough so a few extra details were added.

Why would a school specify having to buy uniform trousers for a one day session? If the girl went in wearing PE joggers are they likely to send her home?

And the endless discussion about how a knee length pleated skirt couldn't possibly result in an embarrassing situation. Of course it can, it's a skirt. Ones own personal pro-skirt, anti-trousers beliefs shouldn't be more important than a girl's dignity or ability to participate in a physical first aid training session.

I've done that kind of course many times over and yes you do get exposed. I learned to have a t shirt tucked in to jeans to minimise this.
Poor girl doesn't need half her class looking at her knickers.

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