Kink shaming

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The danger with this is, if anything goes in terms of fantasies, how can we legitimately separate this from e.g. fantasies about children? If it’s cool to fantasise about rape and abuse, how can it not be cool to fantasise about a 9 year old child being abused or an animal being abused? I know that those who defend the ‘anything goes’ attitude will say ‘of course there is a difference’ but I can’t really see one, unless you are suggesting that rape is not as morally reprehensible or something (in which case, why isn’t it?).

This won’t end well. Sexual fantasies should be held to the same level of scrutiny as other fantasies or thoughts. If you get off on being violent to another person, you’re still a violent person. You don’t get a get out of jail free card because you say it gives you a hard-on.

I don't have access to a large library well-stocked with radical feminist classics. Most of my feminist understanding has come from reading this forum. So if someone male-born is able to articulate something in a way that makes sense to me, I'm not going to discount them because of their sex. Be wary of them, absolutely, but not discount them. )And then use their reference list to add to my small, slowly-expanding, library of radical feminst classics.)

Men do not have your best interests at heart.

The only interest a radical trans feminist has is in breaking down lesbian women's lack of interest in dick.

You have the best library the world has ever seen right here. The internet.

Radical feminism book lists abound. Start a thread here asking for recommendations...but to listen to a woman hating trans person is like a turkey enjoying Thanksgiving!

And then use their reference list to add to my small, slowly-expanding, library of radical feminst classics.

Same, bd67th - I'm grateful for anything that gives me a kick towards putting a particular source text on the To Buy list or, as in this case, shifting it into the shopping basket. There's a lot of radfem literature out there to get through, it can be hard to know where to jump in (especially with limited funds), and one very important thing I've taken away from the link earlier is the knowledge that my head's now in the right place to grapple with Mary Daly and get a lot out of her work.

(And yes I know limited funds is often countered with links to free pdfs but I find I engage with on-screen text differently and besides, I can't put a pdf on the bookshelf and stroke it occasionally.)

But are there actually any men who don't treat women, in the heat of the moment, on some level, as bodies rather than people?

I get that, but surely when you're in the heat of the moment or whatever, it isn't just men that teat the other likes bodies? I don't think women, just because they are women, wouldn't treat a man like a body to get pleasure from?

I get that, but surely when you're in the heat of the moment or whatever, it isn't just men that teat the other likes bodies? I don't think women, just because they are women, wouldn't treat a man like a body to get pleasure from?

No. If you aren't wanting to give pleasure as well as receive it, you are doing sex wrong. If you are concerned for your own pleasure more than your partner's safety and comfort, you are doing sex wrong.