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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Detroit

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DetroitOtherday · 23/08/2019 19:14

Hello?

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DetroitMotorCity · 04/11/2019 23:35

Bit like Spartacus all racoons are Zorro.

DetroitMotorCity · 04/11/2019 23:36

Opossoms are fearless. I run em off clapping my hands. You do not want them to think they can come inside!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/11/2019 23:36

I can't be the only one who loves raccoons? They're wearing Zorro masks and they have adorable little hands. Like bandits of cuteness.

DetroitMotorCity · 04/11/2019 23:42

I thought the same thing before they mugged me for my trail mix.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/11/2019 23:53

I just read on wiki that the 'playing possum' is an involuntary reaction to fear, like fainting. Seems like a very odd evolved characteristic.Confused the page on Virginia opossums has a picture of the mother carrying her young - draped all over her, and another of one 'inhabiting a piano'. Also the surprising information they have 13 nipples - a circle of 12 with one in the middle. ShockThat's from a cursory scan, I hardly dare read the piece properly, I've exceeded my 'learn something new every day' limit I think!Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 04/11/2019 23:56

Here's the link,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_opossum

Blimey! Just noticed they have 50 teeth, but brains only 1/5th the size of a raccoons.

Oldstyle · 05/11/2019 00:38

The fact that opossums have 13 nipples but very small brains is, to date, the best of all the things I didn't expect to learn on MN. Well that and the fact that clownfish prove that TWAW of course.

DetroitMotorCity · 05/11/2019 00:47

I can't ever look at Nemo the same way.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/11/2019 00:53

I can't ever look at Nemo the same way.

Holy shit, I literally didn't, and read Nemo backwards....!ShockGrin

DetroitMotorCity · 05/11/2019 00:57

O men!

DetroitMotorCity · 05/11/2019 14:26

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

BadgertheBodger · 06/11/2019 09:44

Hey Detroit are you ok? Can’t imagine what on earth you said to be deleted but I’ve noticed it’s a bit trigger happy round here at the moment. It’s almost as if we have a lot of threads running discussing issues which TRAs would rather see buried Hmm

Anyway, sending good thoughts

LangCleg · 06/11/2019 09:51

I thought the same thing before they mugged me for my trail mix.

This made me actually LOL!

LangCleg · 06/11/2019 09:56

Hey Detroit are you ok? Can’t imagine what on earth you said to be deleted but I’ve noticed it’s a bit trigger happy round here at the moment. It’s almost as if we have a lot of threads running discussing issues which TRAs would rather see buried

And yes. Detroit - are you okay?

And @MNHQ - look, this is a support thread. The OP is in a terrible situation, homeless, in need of refuge, and operating on the edges of her nerves. Many of us are concerned about her and are offering the only support we can - online messages of sisterhood.

Deletions with the bog standard message look bloody Orwellian in this situation. If you're not prepared to offer a woman in this situation a bit of latitude - which says a lot, and none of it pleasant, if you ask me - then can you at least provide a custom deletion message that has some kindness about so that it does not drive a woman in extremis to cut herself off from the little support she has and leave the rest of us worrying ourselves to death?

DUTY OF CARE counts for something.

RadicalFern · 06/11/2019 10:09

Detroit I too thought raccoons were cute little bandits until I met one at very close quarters while in a hot tub. It hissed at me, but thankfully did not get in!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/11/2019 10:12

Why are women the only vulnerable group who don't deserve a bit of extra kindness and concern when in a difficult situation?

Oldstyle · 06/11/2019 10:41

Well said Lang. This might appear to be a casual and cheery chat thread @MNHQ but Detroit's IRL situation is desperate. Some understanding / compassion would be appreciated.

emerencemaybehopeful · 06/11/2019 10:46

MNHQ - I really hope that this deletion was at the poster's request because I'd hate for there to be anyone here reporting posts on a support chat.

Detroit, I hope you are ok. I can't share any wildlife stories, only observations of a very silly mini poodle who lives with me.

Joisanofthedales · 06/11/2019 10:48

I totally, utterly agree with Lang.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/11/2019 10:56

I really hope that this deletion was at the poster's request because I'd hate for there to be anyone here reporting posts on a support chat.

Deletion messages say if they're at the poster's request.
I think the deleted message was a duplicate of one (also deleted) on kittens thread. It was, iirc, mainly a robust criticism of MN moderation, and an indication that the OP might think MN wasn't for her. I don't remember anything which I'd have thought broke specific guidelines but tbh I thought it was a bit unfair and possibly, as afaik Detroit is a fairly new member, perhaps not aware of some of the pressures MNHQ is under. I rather fear there is stuff going on behind the scenes they can't share openly, but that's speculation on my part.

Anyway, if you're still here Detroit, please don't go. There are many women here who understand and share your concerns and want to support you - even if only by distracting wittering about wildlife. If women like you leave, only the controlling males win. Bugger that!

LangCleg · 06/11/2019 12:59

I've had a message from Detroit. Repeating it here as she wanted to say goodbye for now, although I've edited out sections that might get it deleted so that it can stand and those who supported her know what's happening (sigh).

I do understand that mumsnet are under pressure, but the moderation policy and having to tie myself up in linguistic knots to appease men got too much. I had a deletion for saying so, and then thought, well fuck it might as well go down fighting.

I'm sick of policing my language to make others comfortable when I'm anything but. I've two fractures in my left tibia, plus chipped bone. Putting to rest the maximum if you can walk on it it's not broken. I'm devestated. I try to minimize, as I don't want to upset others. Walking on minor fractures for months has caused a lot of pain, and damage to my leg. I can't take pain pills, turned those down.

I'm past my ability to be nice or understanding. I don't have it left to offer others. I'll stand by what I got deleted for, that forcing women to call men women is linguistic rape.

I love love the women on mumsnet. Seeing my sisters under seige, not able to assemble or talk is very hard for me. It feels like an attack. I'll disappear from online life. But wanted to let you know, and if you could let others know, the simple support of other women got me through some very sad very dark times. I've no idea how I'll cope with what's next. I've got to go back up and get my leg fixed. Can't do it down here.

For fucking shame.

BadgertheBodger · 06/11/2019 13:59

Christ. Oh Detroit. If you read this I’m sending so much love your way Sad I don’t know what to say that wouldn’t get me deleted but I hope you manage to get some help and get your leg seen to. You’re one of the bravest women I’ve ever had the privilege to talk to Flowers

StopThePlanet · 06/11/2019 16:11

This makes me very angry.

Detroit I understand your need to step away and support you in your convictions. We'll be thinking of you and worrying about your safety - wishing we could do more than distraction and kind words. But you are a warrior... a heroine and you will overcome.

We believe in you.

DetroitDReindeer · 18/12/2019 16:50

Hello...I missed you guys! Thought i'ld update. In my absence I've found lots of threads on fwr asking for education of the confused. It seems like a lot of shy, retiring people like baiting my friends for screenshots. Try as I might, that upsets me. I think you all have done beautifully holding the line. I've been proudly lurking reading my sisters talk their way expertly round the rules. I wanted to give you all a festive round of applause.

I decided since I can't ignore Christmas, ill try and acknowledge it's here and get past it. I quite like reindeer. No reindeer here. In fact it's mostly spiders. Big ones with jointed legs and yellow spots. Little jumping ones with huge eyes. Biting motherfuckers that have you waking in sweat and wondering what now! At this rate of nibbling ill turn into spider woman. I miss summer. Its winter quiet. Not many humans either, which at this point is a plus. Lots of huge fat aggressive robins. I don't like Robins, they chase away nicer smaller birds.

The whole shelter thing is impossible. I tried to find provision. The weather forced me south again. It's too cold up where I can get the leg fixed. So im hobbling around on the damn thing. Pretty swollen and my foot is permabruised.

Surviving winter is pretty gruelling. Fires in camp are sporadic due to weather. A campfire makes everything better. The weather gets to be like a mountain to climb, spring at the summit.

I might be too old for this, but some days it seems almost possible. Other days I don't feel I can last another minute.

Thanks for asking how I am. Im ok. Hurting, sad and angry but surviving thanks to the kindness of friends. And im mostly in nicer camps, which helps immensely. Being on the street rather than in the forest would be too much.

LangCleg · 18/12/2019 17:29

It's such a relief to hear from you, darling.