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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

‘Gay Cake’ case now going back to court

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FeminismandWomensFights · 15/08/2019 08:44

This case is an important one to watch for those interested legal protections for personal freedom of belief. It is now going back to court.
Gist seems to be that the complainant tried to order a cake with a message on it saying ‘support gay marriage’ from a baker who doesn’t support gay marriage. Bakery says no to that specific order.
Complainant feels it’s about discrimination because he couldn’t make that supplier supply him with that specific message on a cake. Baker says that any different message on a cake would’ve been completely fine to provide to him, it’s not personal discrimination, it’s about people having a right not to endorse political statements that they don’t believe in. (Possibly making arguments about religious freedom of expression too, but I haven’t read into the details). It‘s easy to see how this case could relate to GC people’s rights, at work and so on.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49350891

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/08/2019 17:22

Would Peter Tatchell support the right of customer to force a baker to make a ‘gay sex is an abomination in the eyes of god’ cake?

FWRLurker · 16/08/2019 17:27

Would Peter Tatchell support the right of customer to force a baker to make a ‘gay sex is an abomination in the eyes of god’ cake?

Er, no. He supports the bakers, and makes that very analogy.

*Long-standing gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell backed the bakers saying: "Ashers did not refuse to serve a gay customer, which would have been wrong and rightly illegal.

"What they did was decline to put a 'support gay marriage' message on a cake.

"Equally, I don't believe a gay baker should be compelled to decorate a cake opposing gay marriage."*

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/08/2019 17:29

Oh am I back to from there? Oops.

As you were...

Datun · 16/08/2019 17:40

Yeah, Peter Tatchell's opinion over anything to do with rights, has zero credibility, as he advocates for the rights of nine-year-olds to have sex with adults. Or is it the other way round? I forget.

I might as well ask my dog.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/08/2019 17:43

Maybe that’s why I just assumed...!

Ereshkigal · 16/08/2019 17:52

I have no respect for Peter Tatchell whatsoever but he has at least done the thinking to bring the situation to its logical endpoint. I think it's self interest that's motivating him.

OldCrone · 16/08/2019 18:27

I think it's self interest that's motivating him.

He's realised that if you can compel homophobic people to write pro-gay slogans, you can compel gay people to write homophobic ones.

TheBigBallOfOil · 16/08/2019 18:34

But that in itself represents significantly more advanced thinking than many are capable of crone. He’s got the concept of rules applying to everyone, not just the people he doesn’t like.
More than the average 20 year old can manage these days it seems.

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