Taking a sword to the toilets

[AlwaysComingHome]

This is where we are now.

A sword carrying dude in a dress in the ladies loo and she was wrong to leave?? These people need a kick up the arse

Just wanted to pick this up

'Women and children are only very rarely sexually assaulted or killed by men they don’t know.'

This isn't true.

Women and girls are mainly victims of men known to them

But sexual assault by strangers is very common
Murder less so, thankfully.

Telling women that a TW with a sword in the ladies loo is nothing to worry about is gaslighting.

This increasing presence of (girlified) weapons is inevitable considering this is an unstable and volatile group who have been indulged, excused and enabled in their verbal threats and threat displays, and supported in labelling the non compliance of women as justifiably hurtful and violent towards them. Of course it's escalated. Offenders start with minor pushes and if they get away with it and its rewarding, they escalate.

It will end in a weapon being used, of course it will, and it won't be anyone under the Stonewall umbrella who is injured or killed. It will be squarely the responsibility of utter muppets like Stonewall, Ruth Hunt and Penny Mordaunt and our Speaker of the House. If these muppets think the general public are going to get any happier and more relaxed about transgender ideology through this kind of threat display behaviour OR if one of their less stable number tips over into acting out their fantasies then they're in for a rude shock.

Fraggling you are right. I would edit that if I could. It is wrong to say that stranger-attacks are “very rare.” They happen too often - including in public toilets.

Alice was that in response to my comment?

a transwoman/male bodied person doesn't want anything to do with me in the toilet - they just need a wee

So do I and their need absolutely does not trump mine. There are toilets available for male-bodied people and they can use them. They have no need whatsoever to be in mine.

"a transwoman/male bodied person doesn't want anything to do with me in the toilet - they just need a wee"

"So do I and their need absolutely does not trump mine. There are toilets available for male-bodied people and they can use them. They have no need whatsoever to be in mine."

Seconded Alltheprettyseahorses! If males (and that includes transwomen) colonise our toilets, we have nowhere to go. That's a basic human right denied.

Fraggling not your comment no, I got what you meant.

I was referring to those who say women have nothing to worry about from a male bodied person in a dress who just happens to have a sword.

If women are frightened believe them.

I just want to know one thing:

If sex is a spectrum / non-binary / non-existent / more complicated than biology 101 you bigot

and

there are so many more passing males identifying as trans than we could possibly imagine / we're all constantly and without noticing using women's facilities alongside such passing males just quietly getting on with their life / passing so well in fact that slapping a woman who may or may not use their previous name is totally justified because no one would ever know otherwise that they're male

and

Expecting a trans person to defy the gender norms of their own sex or adopt opposite sex ones in any way (either by appearance, behaviour or expression) is totally outdated and transphobic

How on earth does he know he freaked out a "cis woman"?

And not

• a passing male who identifies as trans,
• a male who transitioned medically but now identifies as non-binary,
• a non-passing female who identifies as trans or
• a feminine presenting non-binary female

(plus any of the other 1000 genders)

I mean how does he know?

It's almost like us being able to recognise the sex of other humans is a thing, no?

of course he carried the sword to intimidate women. The bloody pervert!

and no, I am not misgendering anybody. Women do not carry swords into toilets. He was not presenting as a woman. He was presenting as a male misogynistic pervert who needs to be locked up!!!!

Well you're misgendering him because his bio says he/him as his pronouns

*NOT misgendering him. Bloody phone.

Agree with the high alert thing.

When I was about 21 I lived in a particularly ropey tower block.

I got in the lift once to go to my flat on the fifth floor and just as the doors were about to close a bloke go it.

He looked to be in his fifties, he was built like a brick shithouse and he had blood running down his face.

I took one look at him and legged it out of the lift.

He called back at me that there was nothing wrong with him etc etc.

I actually think he had a medical condition causing his face to bleed and he had seemed harmless enough when I'd seen him around.

However, I had no control over my reaction. The lift doors were about to slam shut with just the two of us inside and I was terrified on a visceral level. I couldn't reason it away, I couldn't think logical thoughts about why his face might be bleeding.

I just legged it.

And he was offended and 'called me out' for it instead of beginning to understand how I might have felt.

Somethinginthewayshemoves your story reminds me of the book The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. Everyone should read it, it is extremely helpful and talks about how we always need to listen to our gut.

Gavin is a security expert who has interviewed hundreds of victims of crime and he says they always, always got an odd feeling something wasn't right before they were attacked but dismissed it.

You were absolutely right to run away from the weird bleeding man in the lift the way the woman who left the bathroom because of this sword wielding nutter was also absolutely right to do so.

Women lose their lives because of the fear of upsetting other people and the worry of 'seeming rude.'

I have read it, anotheradult, great book and thanks for mentioning it.

For me it's a very highly developed reaction from being tortured and abused throughout my childhood (credit there to my older brother) PTSD is a bitch but it hasn't half got me out of some tricky situations.

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Thanks alice, I agree with you.

If some women are fine with mixed sex, good for them - but don’t give away a protection that many other women want and need.

I'm sorry to hear that something, it sounds horrendous. I too have PTSD from domestic abuse. I feel like my brain developed PTSD after years of 'believing the best in everyone' which lead me to be in some very unsafe situations. It was a revelation to realise there are a lot of people out there who don't actually have good intentions at all, lack empathy and are out to harm others.

So in a way as horrible as it is, like you I'm kind of thankful for PTSD sometimes because it's helped me to put up very firm boundaries. I don't worry anymore about coming across as rude, I just do what feels safe to me, even if it annoys other people. The other symptoms of it are absolutely rubbish though.

Solidarity to you.

Thanks 2b and yes another adult, 100 per cent agree with what you say (and I’m sorry to read of your circumstances too).

The bottom line is we are all mammals and at base my primitive reactions are better at protecting me than my poor brain that was addled by years of gaslighting and being told my abuse wasn’t happening or what no big deal.

I’m a big fan of listening to my gut and letting my body lead the way these days because I, too, used to get myself into situations with people I shouldn’t trust because my psyche was so confused about the messages I’d been given about how my abuse was unimportant.

Taking a sword to the toilets

...brings a whole new meaning to 'going for a slash...'

@MockerstheFeManist 😂😂😂

Fuck me, he's let himself go since he was in The Princess Bride, hasn't he?

My name is Iniga Montoya. You misgendered me. Prepare to die

Different person, different scenario... similar entitlement. At least no sword was involved I guess??

@2BthatUnnoticed The irony is obviously lost on that person.