Men tweeting how they became GC

[chilling19]

Great thread started by Jack Appleby.

twitter.com/jackappleby/status/1159155143000170496?s=21

It’s lovely to be able to read something so positive this morning! Also noticing those men on the thread who have suffered from male stereotyping and or male violence in their lives. Either directly or seeing female family members suffer. Those men never doubted the problems with this ideology.

Good news

It's a really interesting thread.

I'm sure if a woman had started that thread things would be equally civil and heartwarming!

Thanks for flagging this up. Great to see this.

Ha. Right Teddy

I've seen it - Harrop, Madigan, that little known comedian called Bale (who I'd never heard of) - all savage women, call them names like terf and bigot.

I've seen all of them treat men answering their posts with gc views with deference and respect.

But we all knew this was a #WarOnWomen right?

Not directly related, but I had never heard of the term 'terf' before so went to YouTube and watched one of the videos with loads of views. I had to turn it off when they said something I won't repost because it's so ridiculous and hurtful. Luckily 99% of the comments were disagreeing.

Having a radfem seccond wave feminist mum seems to be a very good thing indeed for men.

It's wonderful. Great to see so many women writers cited, but also pleased for Glinner that so many have said he influenced them.
Also - many have mentioned Mumsnet! Those lurkers out there really are paying attention - and some of them are men.

I too noticed the lack of abuse and death threats!

Still reading this morning! Shout out to Dr EM, Rebecca Reilly-Cooper and Helen Joyce whose reasoned arguments have peak transed the men, in addition to the ones I named above..

Brilliant women. I must have missed some.

Anthony Watson bullying Helen Joyce got a special mention. Men bulling women is not a good look.

"I've seen all of them treat men answering their posts with gc views with deference and respect."

That is because all of the people you have mentioned are cowards, they would prefer to bully and attack women.
They basically hate women.
McKinnon is another one in the same category.

Thank you so much for facilitating thid Jack.

The intellect, empathy, humanity and humour shining from this thread is beautiful. I actually teared up reading some of the posts and im only about 2/3s through.

That men who never before considered feminism have been reading feminist works, that they took notice of lesbians at pride, (those that were at Leeds pride take note - you are reaching people ). Dads being open that they didnt care until they had daughters...

I dont think the TRA will touch it as it will just reinforce everything being said and they cant shout it down as a few nasty women.

Great thread, and yes, Feminist mothers of boys have done a great job

Thank you so much for facilitating this Jack.

Yes. I understand you've lost good friends by standing up for women. I hope you, as well as us, are taking some heart from these replies.

Jonny best has a long thread on jacks thread about how he met Julie bindel and how much vilification she has received for years on this subject
See below from Jonny’s thread

The brilliant Stonewall I had known and worked with was gone. The bullies who had made Julie's life hell were now running the show, influencing public policy, spreading flawed concepts and seeking to coerce the rest of us into agreeing - or face being labelled transphobic.

Watching a young person in a male body deliver a testosterone fuelled attack on a 60 year old woman brought back childhood memories of my dad beating my mum. Male violence is male violence, I don't give a shit how you dress it up and pretend otherwise.

TPA dont seem to realuse that most men love and respect the women in their lives. Seen the odd TPA here and there on tbe thread but not many.

It is truly heartwarming. Not that we should be excited that men give a shit. I feel the tide is turning, but it will be like turning the QEII, it might take a while to face another direction. I did actually get emotional reading some of the replies, moody cow that I am. And as well as all the wonderful women, Glinner deserves a mention.

What strikes me most about the thread is how, by and large, the reasons given are exactly the same as those I've seen when women are asked the same question.

It's almost as if anyone, man or woman, who has stopped to engage brain on this issue sees the obvious flaws in an obviously dangerous and nonsensical ideology. No wonder trans privilege activists scream 'no debate'.

So heartening. Thanks to Jack, et al.

It is galling to see men being allowed their opinions without a violent pile on. Also that they feel confident they are not going to be doxxed, reported to the police or sacked. Which is not to say that I am not grateful that they are standing by us, far from it. It just highlights how women, particularly feminists, are targeted and told to STFU.

chilling19 Yes, odd that. And I’m seeing a noticeable absence of counter arguments (to put it diplomatically) from certain regular posters on this thread. It’s like they have nothing to say about that twitter thread started by a man and consisting mostly of responses from men even though they’re saying pretty much what gc women here have said on many a ‘what peak transed you?’ thread that has subsequently been derailed. Maybe their bat signal isn’t working or maybe they fell down the wiki hole about what it feels like to be a bat - i’m sure they’ll be along later to explain why all those men there are wrong just as all the gc women here are wrong.

Do you think it might be possible, theoretically, that some people only give credence to certain views/explanations/thoughts if they are voiced by male people?

Are perhaps less likely to consider it as 'thin-lipped screeching' if it is attached to a man?

Proper cheered me up. Great to see Glinner getting some shot in the arm from other blokes as well.

Its good to see men talking about their experiences and getting support.