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The daily grind of entitled wankers

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Grace212 · 07/08/2019 18:27

A slightly unusual question for the board

I’m looking at driving again after a very long time. Today I had a refresher lesson. It was nice. But I did find myself wondering, will my world contain more or fewer entitled wankers if I’m driving again? As opposed to frequent public transport and a cab about once a week?

This may be the maddest question on the board but ...life is so full of arses.

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Boyskeepswinging · 07/08/2019 18:31

I find there are a lot of entitled wankers on public transport so if you can put up with that you should be fine on the road!

ErrolTheDragon · 07/08/2019 18:36

Hmm. IME it depends to some extent what sort of car you drive. I found the number of entitled wankers I encountered decreased when I changed from small hatchbacks to midsized.

Grace212 · 07/08/2019 18:41

I suppose I just wondered because I’d forgotten what it can be like out there

I met the instructor at an industrial estate. I was early, there was a security guard who asked me why I was there. No problem, literal,to his job. He then went into

Where are you from

I think I’ve seen you here before

Why are you learning to drive again

Are you married

Etc etc

Then the instructor arrived. They know each other, of course. They had bantz.

Then the instructor spent so much of the lesson wanting to talk about cars and not drive, it was....bizarre. Fortunately we drove around a bit, which was nice. I haven’t forgotten how to drive.

But I just thought....all the road wankers....which type of wanker is less annoying? I had forgotten about men trying to race you, trying to cut you up because how dare you be a woman in a car....etc etc.

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Grace212 · 07/08/2019 18:43

“I found the number of entitled wankers I encountered decreased when I changed from small hatchbacks to midsized”

I can believe that, yes.

Something else I forgot, cars aren't designed for short arses are they? They’re designed for people who are six foot, not five foot.

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ErrolTheDragon · 07/08/2019 18:46

I'm 5'1" - while some aspects of most cars aren't ideal, they're not all terrible. All round parking sensors help with the issue of not being able to see the bonnet, for instance.

Grace212 · 07/08/2019 18:52

I was thinking of seat position and foot pedals really. I remember my instructor told me the point where I was comfortable was too close, and this guy was saying exactly the same.

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JellySlice · 07/08/2019 18:58

I generally find myself able to blank out public transport wankers, but it's much harder when the wanker is at the controls of a tonne of deadly machinery.

IIRC, the crucial safety issue is that your chest needs to be at least 10" away from the centre of the steering wheel for the airbag to deploy safely and effectively. For 'chest' read 'sternum', as no doubt this was tested using male-standard test-dummies. I daresay nobody tested to see the effect of airbags on breasts that reduce that 10" distance.

JellySlice · 07/08/2019 18:59

I was thinking of seat position and foot pedals really.

Can you adjust the steering wheel?

Goosefoot · 07/08/2019 19:03

I find driving wankers seem more dangerous, whereas public transport wankers can be very immediately annoying.

EverardDigby · 07/08/2019 19:04

Hmm. IME it depends to some extent what sort of car you drive. I found the number of entitled wankers I encountered decreased when I changed from small hatchbacks to midsized.

I found this, but going the wrong way. Drives me nuts, why do people drive right up your arse even you can't go anywhere because of the car in front?

showmethegin · 07/08/2019 19:05

@JellySlice You are spot on about crash test dummies. Read this! Enlightening and terrifying in equal measure.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/23/truth-world-built-for-men-car-crashes

In response to your Q OP, it's odd, sometimes I don't come across any twats on the road and some days it's none stop! It's like flying ant day! Me and DP call it 'drive like a dickhead day' Grin

veryboredtoday · 07/08/2019 19:06

I swap between driving my little city car and a much larger car (typical business man type car).
I notice a massive difference in the entitled wankers' behaviours.
It's almost as if small cars driven by women are not allowed in the outside lane. It's not as if I drive at different speeds in the 2 cars (as I always go a bit too fast on the motorway) so I can only put it down to the type of car.

Grace212 · 07/08/2019 19:07

Jelly, I see what you mean. Re steering wheel, yes, it was adjustable in this car. The instructor really felt that my choice was too close though. Like my instructor from 20 years ago, I wondered, can they just not compute the height difference?

Sorry, this is very boring but as this is the board who understand me, I’ll bore on

The current situation is, I have to do public transport some days for work. Last year my father died and I now spend a lot of time going to mum’s, one weekday and one weekend day.

With a car, the journey would be about 45 mins. With trains and buses, it’s about 1hr 45 on a good day. I stay the night there a lot, which I hate, but sometimes seems better than the long trek home.

I often end up taking a cab to make the journey a bit shorter. I’ve met well some dodgy cabbies, well, men who have made me feel uncomfortable. And then they’re either dropping me off at mine or mum’s. I never let these nosy parkers know that either of us live alone.

We used to have a few women cabbies in my area but not any more. The last one who packed it in told me she was unhappy with how the other cabbies behaved with her.

I don’t know which is going to be less hassle in the end. I suppose public transport seems worse in summer holidays too.

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EverardDigby · 07/08/2019 19:16

I would hate not to have my car, most days I don't come across wankers, but it's so convenient for certain journeys that I would pay that price anyway. I also travel by train sometimes, which is mostly fine and faster for some journeys but won't get me everywhere I want to go. I hate cabs but then I was sexually assaulted in one so that would explain that!

ErrolTheDragon · 07/08/2019 19:17

I suppose I feel a lot more in control when I'm driving versus public transport. Perception of risk can be subjective, of course. The statistical probability of having an accident is (I think) quite a bit higher on the road, but the chances of unwelcome contact seem lower.

Fraggling · 07/08/2019 19:24

'I was thinking of seat position and foot pedals really. I remember my instructor told me the point where I was comfortable was too close'

This sort of thing is so annoying.

Years ago before you could adjust height of drivers seat, you used to get tiny women on cushions with their noses barely above the steering wheel. My dad would laugh at them. Essentially they looked like that because cars were built for the average man, and the women didn't fit, and average men then laughed at them because of it. This is classic privilege in action.

First time i got a car I could adjust height of seat it was a revelation!

Men still tell us what to think though. You feel comfy. He says no you're doing it wrong. So it was forever. They are clueless. And don't want to get a clue.

Cascade220 · 07/08/2019 19:25

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DpWm · 07/08/2019 19:25

Make sure you stop for a man if you find both of you approach a road section from opposite directions that reduces traffic to a single lane in both directions, (eg with lots of parked cars) otherwise you may be given the finger. This happened to me recently.

Make sure you don't drive at the correct speed limit in the right hand lane, otherwise you will get some guy (usually in a BMW) attaching himself to your rear bumper until you concede by moving yourself behind that massive HGV in the left hand lane.

Make sure you don't slow down and drive carefully when hearing sirens from an ambulance/police car coming from the near vicinity, or some guy will beep furiously behind you.

Make sure you don't find yourself driving behind a bus that proves virtually impossible to overtake whenever it stops at the bus stop, or the idiot behind you will start beeping at you.

Can you tell I live in London?!

Don't drive in London. You'll be fine.

Grace212 · 07/08/2019 19:28

Fraggling, yes, and this instructor said “you would be more badly injured if something happened and you were too close”.

But being too far from the clutch to be comfortable doesn’t make sense either.

The motoring injuries stats from that article are interesting. Have 4 x 4s been adapted for shorter drivers at all?

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Grace212 · 07/08/2019 19:30

DpWM

The sad thing is, I used to drive in central London a lot and it was enjoyable. Wouldn’t do it now though.

I would mostly be using the M11 and M25.

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Joh66 · 07/08/2019 19:31

So you are paying a driving instructor to take you through a refresher lesson or two but are arguing about the seating position with them. And are arrogant enough to think that they cannot possibly know what a correct seating position is. Bizarre Confused

Fraggling · 07/08/2019 19:41

'you would be more badly injured if something happened and you were too close”.'

Tell him that you'll be more badly injured no matter what happens as cars are still tested for the average man when it comes to safety. Even the ones that use 'female' dummies is small male ones.

Tell him that if it was too dangerous the car manufacturer wouldn't allow that setting.

Tell him to fuck off.

This stuff infuriates me.

Learning to drive, hands at quarter to 12 or 11.50. Mine kept dropping. Kept getting told off.

Got a car with an adjustable seat and steering wheel. Oh look! The reason was it was uncomfortable and hard work for me to keep them like that in non adjustable car, not bloody surprising they kept dropping. Easy when adjusted right.

Men build the world for them and laugh at us/ tell us we're rubbish when we can't do it because it's more difficult for us! Because it doesn't fit.

Recent poster pointed out this applies with field of vision and parking as well.

Pah.

Grace212 · 07/08/2019 19:41

Joh

I didn’t argue. I drove as he instructed, because he said my choice of comfortable position was wrong. There was no way I’d hire an instructor and argue with them.

When I had my previous instructor, I did eventually say, politely, that he needed to think about the position I’d choose for the test. So ultimately I did end up driving in the position that suited me better, but probably after about 6 lessons.

I do think they don’t know what it’s like to find the right seating at five foot.

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Fraggling · 07/08/2019 19:42

Alright John, got a new motor :D

Yes op is a thick, argumentative twat.

Feel better now?

Fraggling · 07/08/2019 19:43

Quarter to 3 lol

You know the ones I mean :D

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