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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transparency in terms of GC fundraisers

81 replies

MinnieTheSphinx · 05/08/2019 13:22

Obviously a fair bit of money has been raised and there have been some controversies such as Jennifer James admitting borrowing some of the cash for her own use. Thankfully she had the decency to admit that, apologise and seems to keep fairly open and transparent accounts. However, others do not. Would it therefore be a good thing if those who have raised a lot of money through fundraisers were to publish a detailed breakdown of their accounts? I'm sure every penny has gone back into campaigning of course, but by publishing those details it would silence those who maliciously make comments about people using money to pay for holidays etc.

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LangCleg · 05/08/2019 13:25

I'd rather concentrate on the multiple millions funding genderism by cognitively captured grant making orgs - BLF, CiN, EHRC, etc.

Thanks for the suggestion. But I'll pass.

TerfTalk · 05/08/2019 13:26

I’ll spend my money as I please. Smile

Goosefoot · 05/08/2019 13:26

It's always a good idea to have that kind of transparency. It's not always easy though with less formal types of fundraising, there really isn't anyone whose job it is to oversee that element. The individual controlling the money, even if supplying details, could lie. And many people might not lie but are just very poor at money management.

ClosdesMouches · 05/08/2019 13:29

Thanks, but no thanks.
My money, my decision how/where I spend it.

PurpleCrowbar · 05/08/2019 13:33

Yup, also happy with my various donations.

I see there's at least one I haven't chipped in to yet, so thanks for the reminder! Another tenner in the pot.

MinnieTheSphinx · 05/08/2019 13:33

My money, my decision how/where I spend it.

No one is debating that, but when those with fundraisers for specific purposes take the same attitude then it could obviously become a problem.

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ClosdesMouches · 05/08/2019 13:36

I see you Minnie.

Goosefoot · 05/08/2019 13:38

It's kind of taken for granted in terms of charitable donations that there are limits on spending. legally for registered charities they have to meet standards.

It's been a change with things like crowd-funding that people have had to get used to that they can't depend on that. The donations could be used for hats and cocaine.

I am just not sure that publishing a breakdown would be helpful given that there is no one to audit it or anything like that.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 05/08/2019 13:38

I knew there was something I'd been meaning to do this morning, it was to make a donation. Have done that now, thanks.

LonginesPrime · 05/08/2019 13:41

I only donate to funds where I'm happy with where the money is going and how it will be spent, or happy to take the risk that it might be misused because I believe in the cause.

Crowdfunding is quite different from donating to a registered charity but for many it's often a risk worth taking for a cause that wouldn't be funded otherwise.

While anyone can start up a crowdfund, I don't think that regulating crowdfunding would help the people crowdfunding is intended to help - individuals should just do their own due diligence as they see fit before donating.

S1naidSucks · 05/08/2019 13:43

Oh bugger. I swore I was going to donate over the weekend and completely forgot. Thanks for the reminder Minnie.

FamilyOfAliens · 05/08/2019 13:44

Just the GC fundraisers then?

LangCleg · 05/08/2019 13:46

Oh, good idea. I think I'll make an extra donation.

LangCleg · 05/08/2019 13:48

Also, I might look into some right wing funders of genderism, especially amounts and transparency. Jennifer Pritzker should be a good start, right?

Datun · 05/08/2019 13:48

I'm sure every penny has gone back into campaigning of course, but by publishing those details it would silence those who maliciously make comments about people using money to pay for holidays etc.

Asked and answered there.

The money is spent on campaigning, and people who don't want it to be, are being malicious. Therefore any publishing of a breakdown, is for them, not us.

Datun · 05/08/2019 13:49

Honestly. The logic does my head in. It really does.

LangCleg · 05/08/2019 13:54

What logic?

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 05/08/2019 13:56

Aaah, excellent that's jogged my memory that I wanted to donate to 'Get the L out' and 'Safer Schools Alliance' this month - thanks Minnie

I'm so grateful to all these dedicated women working in their spare time to campaign and stand up to Goliath publicly-funded juggernauts like Stonewall. They are the real heroes of this movement.

morningtoncrescent62 · 05/08/2019 13:59

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stealthsquirrelnutkin · 05/08/2019 14:00

Thanks for the reminder. "Expelled from GirlGuiding because of my Gender Critical Beliefs" just got another twenty of my widow's mites.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 05/08/2019 14:02

Minnie then I am sure you agree that the use of crowdjustice is to be applauded as the money can only be spend on that legal case.

Which reminds me, I need to donate

2BthatUnnoticed · 05/08/2019 14:04

OP, your interest in transparency is admirable. Perhaps you could research and provide a breakdown of how this USD424,000,000 per annum is spent?

Transparency in terms of GC fundraisers
Transparency in terms of GC fundraisers
MinnieTheSphinx · 05/08/2019 14:04

Thanks for the reminder. "Expelled from GirlGuiding because of my Gender Critical Beliefs" just got another twenty of my widow's mites.

Of course it did

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truthisarevolutionaryact · 05/08/2019 14:04

I'm quite happy with all the donations I have made from my hard earned income to the small individuals and organisations fighting this abuse. And it 's great to see so many ordinary women and men funding them. Unlike the bloated lobby groups doing so much harm with their tax payer's funding.

You've obviously had an impact OP - there's a target close to being met since you posted Grin

TemporaryPermanent · 05/08/2019 14:04

I only give to crowdfunders where i am happy to take the risk that I am basically putting money into an unravelled bucket. I understand there's a risk, so far I am pretty happy with the few crowd funding donations I've made.

If the government want to regulate crowd funding they should do so. How do we act when we feel that the government, major political parties and key areas in healthcare and education are imposing a dubious ideology without any regard for their own processes, such as proper consultation, equality impact assessments and transparency? Contributing to crowdfunders is one way of doing this and I fully accept the risks I am taking by doing this. There aren't, to be honest, many causes I feel strongly enough about to donate to, but this is one of them.