Challenor showing off their 'new' birth certificate

[MrsSnippyPants]

I will never accept this 'legal fiction, it is a travesty.

Jimmy Saville was indeed a pedophile unfortunately not court but there was enough evidence to charge him even in the time he was alive. if there is enough for this person then someone with that evidence needs to report this person and if its true then they will be arrested.

Also most trans people know that you can not change biological sex. it's one of the main issues in relation to dysphoria. So saying so n so is aware is like stating the bleeding obvious to us.

But by getting a GRC, trans people are asking everyone else - including the law - to collude in this untruth.

And it does have consequences, whatever some might say.

I would love trans people to be able to be accepted in society as who they are, and for how they present - without them and everyone else having to pretend they are the opposite sex.

Those who suffer from dysphoria, which must be extremely distressing, should be given as much appropriate help as possible.

if they haven't been charged with offences towards children they are not infact a pedophile.

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Jimmy Saville was indeed a pedophile unfortunately not court but there was enough evidence to charge him even in the time he was alive. if there is enough for this person then someone with that evidence needs to report this person and if its true then they will be arrested.

And we're idiots!

bespin stating TW are biological males might is obvious so why is it a hate crime?

Ad for DBS/PVG it does from what ive read require honesty from the applicant either filling in previous names on the form as usual or phoning ip in advance to notify of previous names. So although most people would be honest it is the more dubious characters that are of concern and whether or not they can use trans as a way around safeguarding. How is questioning this idiocy?

A paedophile is a paedophile because he is sexually attracted to children. That's the definition.

Challenor's father is a convicted paedophile, who raped a child.

Challenor's partner has written about his own paedophilic fantasies online.

Both are paedophiles.

Bespin a person who is attracted to children is a paedophile and AC's partner has openly admitted to having sexual fantasies involving children. Whether they have acted on those fantasies is another matter, which I'm sure the police are investigating since this individual has been reported to them.

Twitter profiles will state MAP or NOMAP according to whether they have offended or not. You do not have to be a child sex offender to be a paedophile.

I'm personally quite interested to know about this person's computer files and whether there abide by the law but as I'm not a resident of Michigan I cannot do anything about this personally and I would also be interested if this person were to be staying at the same Centre Parcs as I might be with my child for example.

Right to be clear I have no idea if AM is a pedophile or as a sexual attraction to children. none of us do appearly we have some tweets which you have interpretated to mean that, which you Dont know obviously if that person as clearly stated they have an attraction to children, then they are a pedophile and I hope they get help for that and never act out those fantasys but if this is all just speculation that you are discrediting someone based on your interpretation because it fits your narrative to do so.

same Centre Parcs as I might be with my child for example.

So what you are saying is that you need to be aware of people who you feel are a pedophile because you think they are. what like that odd person down the road with the mental illness that everyone thinks is a bit odd so must be a pedo or the person with the learning disability that might be a sex offender because they all are, or the Asian man who grooms young girls because they all do that don't they? you mean like that Dont you.

*Bespin

just for clarification as AM partner been charged with offences against children at all? I ask as you all appear to know more than me on this, if they haven't been charged with offences towards children they are not infact a pedophile.

They wrote post after post along the lines of how attracted to children they are, how they fantasise and write about having sex with children, watching children have sex with each other, watching children have sex with adult, etc.

So yes, a self-confessed, out and proud paedophile.

I don't know if anyone else can remember, but is this the individual that Amy went on holiday to centre parcs with? A well-known, British holiday resort for families.

So what you are saying is that you need to be aware of people who you feel are a pedophile because you think they are.

No. Because they said they were.

Do you not see profiles all over Twitter with MAP and MOMAP on them ? A minor attracted person and non-offending minor attracted person?

What have you been?

*where

Honestly I don't know I hope if they did someone reported it and it's investigated and they get help if they need it, or prosecuted if they have committed an offence. but I don't know them I have never seen the tweets or the context of them so I really can not comment.

there are enough dangerous people out there that we already know about that are complex to manage the risks of, I really have no idea if this person is one of them as I have not seen the evidence to highlight the risks or any assessments based on that.

I believe it was, Datun. There were photos.

AC's partner is either so detached from reality, or mentally unwell, or porn-soaked, or groomed into this behaviour by other online MAPS - that they did not think there was anything wrong with admitting all this on twitter. In fact, self-congratulated themselves for their honesty and openness.

As you say, a self confessed paedophile.

YES, Bespin, people have reported this person. MANY people have reported. This person lives in America - so it's down to the US authorities to deal with now.

YES - we know there are dangerous people out there. Dangerous people who will abuse self ID to gain access to women and children. That is kind of why women are fighting this.

AC, NK and KS all went on holiday to Centre Parcs in the UK earlier this year, AC posted photo. They of course can go on holiday wherever they choose. AC has committed a crime but not one of a sexual nature as far as I'm aware, neither has KS or NK, again as far as I'm aware.

No Bespin I do not mean that - there is a national sex offender register and maps available showing where they live, I have seen this on a local scouts related website site which is monitored by parents who have had their child molested by a sex offender who worked at with the scouts. I do not know if that website is legal or illegal.

My question is, if a sex offender from the US married a UK citizen would they a) get a resident VISA if they had committed a sex crime and b) would they appear on the national sex register? I imagine not as their offence would have been committed in another country and would not be in the legal system here. I do not expect all known sex offenders to be known in every country but it would be nice wouldn't it? I also do not expect holiday resorts like Butlins or Centre Parcs to be in a position to know about or ban entry to known sex offenders but again it would be nice wouldn't it?

I seriously don't look for profiles with those on them. I would be concerned about people that do look for them.

@Bespin for your catch up reading

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I seriously don't look for profiles with those on them. I would be concerned about people that do look for them.

Well you go on pretending that women should not be concerned about men who say they want to rape little kids. And we'll decide the meaning of the word idiocy.

I fully aware there is a register, to be place on it you have be placed by the court. so your saying that person as been charged and committed an offence. they would not be allowed to enter the country if they have been charged with an offence and were on an equivalent list from the US. Marrying someone from the UK would not change there criminal status. if they have not committed a crime then why would they not be allowed into the country?

Challoner has committed a crime. They made phone threats to the bullring shopping centre.

Look for what, bespin? The profiles of paedophiles that are openly exchanging photos & information on twitter?

No, why would you need to? They have come to our attention because they are operating openly on twitter.

You don't need to search for them. Worthier academic women than me have researched it. You know, because of the child protection issues.

twitter.com/pankhurstem/status/1094580934500847618?lang=en

It’s completely absurd that someone can change the sex recorded on their birth certificate. It makes me really angry that legislation can be used in an attempt to conceal the truth.

Why put your altered birth certificate on twitter?

Goady.

ah right so it's totally how you interprated someone's tweets that makes them a pedophile, so it is just because you don't like the look of them. the tweets are very clear they don't like actual children. that is what makes someone a pedophile not a liking for fictional characters. this is often misunderstood when assessing people's risk as they appear the same thing but they are not. Also the link between fantesy and reality is not a direct one. Anyone with an understanding in assessing such risks will be able to see the difference in that.

Again, Bespin - it's not our interpretation. This person is a self-confessed paedophile.

When someone tells you who they are, you are wise to listen. Not call it "our interpretation".