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Thanks for confirming your brand of feminism Meghan!

56 replies

GrimDamnFanjo · 29/07/2019 01:44

Vogue mag - collection of inspiring women from the Duchess of Sussex. She includes Laverne Cox.
At least we know now!

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helpmeiamatoad · 29/07/2019 01:46

Cool Smile

TerfTalk · 29/07/2019 01:52

She's damned if she does and Damned if she doesn't. I probably would have included a trans woman too, otherwise the whole thing would be massively overshadowed by name-calling.

pikapikachu · 29/07/2019 03:24

Could have been worse and picked Caitlyn Jenner.

Rachelover40 · 29/07/2019 03:48

I'd never heard of Laverne Cox, had to google her. She's an American, like Meghan, they probably know each other slightly (I mean, it's such a small country :-) ).

I will now google Caitlyn Jenner.

Second thread I've seen tonight about this Vogue business. I didn't realise Vogue was so important outside the world of fashion.

miri1985 · 29/07/2019 05:35

She also included Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie who was chided for stating that transwomen are transwomen and don't have the same experiences as her

If you're looking for radical feminism from someone who married into the royal family I think you're going to be constantly disappointed

BelleHathor · 29/07/2019 06:32

Laverne Cox of the please free this poor transgender inmate... Nevermind that they are in prison for the raping, cutting up into pieces and setting on fire a 12 year old little black girl. When caught Cox tried to go oops "I didn't know" yeah rightSad

DpWm · 29/07/2019 07:49

Belle
Christ I was really confused I thought you meant LC was in prison!

To be fair (after Googling LC and "prison"!) I learned that they were an actress in "Orange is the New Black" so probably feels they have a role there in campaigning for trans prisoners (in the obvious TRA way of moving them all) and perhaps doesn't always think it through properly. So I'd let LC off the hook there.
They seem to have done a lot with their life.

Micaela64 · 29/07/2019 08:01

Her list was predictable and boring. Meghan seems like the typical unthinking and unquestioning American SJW who will just go along with whatever the newest right on fad is. Mindless.

LizzieSiddal · 29/07/2019 08:07

Disappointing but not surprising.

fernandoanddenise · 29/07/2019 08:13

The inclusion of a mirror on the cover so all of us can look at it and be an inspiring woman too! Yay!
Honestly it’s utter cringe and reeks of earnest privilege.

Ounce · 29/07/2019 08:17

Vogue has gone to the dogs under EE. I bet circulation is dropping off a cliff.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 29/07/2019 08:27

I thought this was about Meghan Murphy! Disappointed to learn it’s about the royal one

NotTerfNorCis · 29/07/2019 09:07

Yes I thought this was Murphy, confused for a moment there!

BelleHathor · 29/07/2019 09:19

Down sorry I didn't explain myself properly. Laverne Cox did a video appeal for a TW in prison called Synthia China Blast. Lots of woke publications covered it , failing to mention the crime that China Blast was incarcerated for, the rape and graphic and brutal murder of a young teenage girl called Ebony Nicole Williams. Feminists across the world called Cox out.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=1KvPetfWO7o
womenarehuman.com/vicious-child-rapist-murderer-demands-sex-change-freedom-synthia-china-blast/

ArabellaDoreenFig · 29/07/2019 10:06

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FormerMediocreMale · 29/07/2019 10:16

Oh thought this was going to be about Meghan Murphy.

I wont bother reading the list as i have no intetest in what this woman thinks especially after the way their neighbours have been treated. She has no right to tell others to be discourteous just because her head has been swallowed by her arse - an arrogant no mark as far as im concerned.

drspouse · 29/07/2019 10:23

Laverne Cox has been roundly (and hilariously) damned by a huge number of black women so Meghan could have done some research.

www.lipstickalley.com/threads/laverne-cox-black-cis-women-are-to-blame-because-black-straight-men-dont-want-to-date-trans-women.2537928/?fbclid=IwAR32qZ9yPqlfjAwmU-qdk1tOfVo64Pc0_yX7UL9gGBfaBM5Ayy1tT0iUrQU

Lumene · 29/07/2019 10:37

I can’t get too worked up about this to be honest. Or too interested really.

Lumene · 29/07/2019 10:38

The Vogue cover choices I mean, not the obvious issues with conflicting ‘rights’ in jails.

Hoppinggreen · 29/07/2019 10:42

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ADropofReality · 29/07/2019 11:10

She's damned if she does and Damned if she doesn't.

Given she now holds a position above politics, what she should have done is not guest-edited the bloody thing at all.

The problem for someone like me, a staunch monarchist, is not just Laverne Cox but also Greta Thunberg and Jacinda Adern. If the Sussexes are going to use their position to promote greeny pro-trans leftism, they might just find the traditional supporters of the monarchy (red-faced Tories like me) end up supporting the monarchy rather as Francis Urquhart did in To Play the King - pro-getting rid of troublesome individuals to save the whole.

Cohle · 29/07/2019 11:29

I think it's great that a member of the royal family is using their position to advocate for feminist issues and women of colour.

Criticising her because she doesn't meet your idea of perfect, GC feminism seems counter productive.

Ounce · 29/07/2019 11:31

She's damned if she does and Damned if she doesn't.

Gosh yes, just imagine the public outcry if she had NOT guest edited Vogue...

And I thought she was on mat leave? The whole thing is utterly farcical.

TerfTalk · 29/07/2019 11:33

I didn’t mean that “she’s damned” if she doesn’t edit Vogue. I meant she’s damned if she doesn’t include a trans women.

TheBigBallOfOil · 29/07/2019 11:35

Stupid woman makes bad choices shocker.
Can we please just get rid of the whole royal family. I do not care what these people think. I am sick of being told by them what I should think, care about and be interested in. Can they all just shut the fuck up and fuck the fuck off now please.