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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Video of JY tribunal.

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ahumanfemale · 20/07/2019 11:10

This is something else. The tweets seemed crazy but hearing it...

Doing this is a separate post in case it gets deleted.

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=6s_AvuaxMd0&fbclid=IwAR2w3FUWWPMKTLrfMXJEhCu3SPjKG2--n-4JzBPMuooUKZp1-QUbxPGq39M

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thirdfiddle · 26/07/2019 16:00

The actual material reality of JY isn't really in question here.
I agree it should be.

It could be from the point of view of showing he is a liar and not bringing case in good faith. But if he against all probability did turn out to have a vulva it wouldn't make his case any stronger as the women had good reason to think otherwise.

ChiaraRimini · 26/07/2019 18:15

The simple point truth is that JY requested a service (ball waxing) from traders who did not offer that service.
The complaint should have been thrown out as unreasonable.
Self employed individuals cannot be compelled to start offering a service just a customer asks.
The End.

Datun · 26/07/2019 18:24

But this is where it gets you, isn't it. If Yaniv is legally a woman, you have no way of proving that he has a cock. It's not good enough to say, oh come on, we can see you're a man.

And he's deliberately fudging the issue.

Furthermore, he wants the issue to be about what constitutes a woman, and whether or not that involves a different configuration of genitals. And because Canada is so woke, they don't want to bite the bullet and say what everyone else knows to be the truth.

They want to detach a penis from the fact that it's owned by a man.

I said to one of the politicians who came on here for a web chat that if a man was in my space and I said excuse me, this is the women's space, and he replied with I'm a woman, what can I do? Short of saying I don't believe you. Which most women have learnt is not the best thing to say to a man who is already demonstrating he doesn't give a fuck about your boundaries.

The entire premise is ridiculous. And is determined to ignore the power dynamic between men and women.

thirdfiddle · 26/07/2019 19:40

Oh yes, Yaniv is a one person argument against self ID. Bad law is the problem here not a bad individual. If the law was sound in the first place a dodgy individual would not be able to wield it as a weapon.

popehilarious · 27/07/2019 20:28

Think I was possibly slightly wrong above, going by one of the latest tweets:

"Member must decide 5 things:

  • nature of JY's gender identity
-scope of service (customarily provided by waxing ladies)
  • was JY's gender id a factor in denial of service
-if gender id was a factor, is there a bonafide defence to discrimination claim
  • what remedy if any"

so it was gender identity rather than trans status that was supposedly the discriminating factor? I'm not entirely sure what that means, JY's gender id is "female" so how could "female" have led to refusal of service? I'm not trying to be stupid but I don't really feel like i know what words mean any more. Or does 'gender identity' mean 'trans woman'? I guess that's point 1 of what the member needs to determine.

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