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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Video of JY tribunal.

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ahumanfemale · 20/07/2019 11:10

This is something else. The tweets seemed crazy but hearing it...

Doing this is a separate post in case it gets deleted.

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=6s_AvuaxMd0&fbclid=IwAR2w3FUWWPMKTLrfMXJEhCu3SPjKG2--n-4JzBPMuooUKZp1-QUbxPGq39M

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OpheliaTodd · 20/07/2019 19:54

Ffs. Sounds like the whole shower are crazy as bedbugs 🙄

ahumanfemale · 20/07/2019 23:49

Why does JY's parent say that JY started periods at 13-14*
JY then mentions abdominal cramps.*

They need to demand medical records. Males do not have periods FFS.

Especially when the mother also refers to JY as "he". And as JY identifies as a trans woman, that specifically rules them out of the biological realities of going through female puberty. This was all said under oath too...

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OneEndedStick · 20/07/2019 23:58

What, no tiara and purple fart dress?

Redshoeblueshoe · 21/07/2019 00:22

I questioned this on the other thread but got no response.
I understand that a response might break guidelines, so please don't.
But from Elsie's report, P shouted but you have only spent 5 nights on your own.
I read that as J always sleeps in Ps bed ?
Am I alone thinking that ?

GirlDownUnder · 21/07/2019 00:50

What, no tiara and purple fart dress?

Grin I heart that whole look. We should see more of the purple chicken fillet look. JY Knows It Wink

GirlDownUnder · 21/07/2019 00:58

But from Elsie's report, P shouted but you have only spent 5 nights on your own.
I read that as J always sleeps in Ps bed ?

There is a lot wrong in their relationship, and if they spending most nights together (don't forget JY is in hospital a lot) I still wouldn't read anything in to it. I'm sure they both have spare beds, or sofas, or whatever.
The mom also said she only gets the hour when she baths alone, and some (odd) people surmised that mom must be bathing JY Hmm

So, like I said there's a lot wrong with their relationship but I don't think we need to go there!

Plus is it even relevant to the whole tribunal case? I don't think so.

Redshoeblueshoe · 21/07/2019 01:03

Thank you Girl. I'm not trying to be goady, but some of this is very difficult to make sense of

GirlDownUnder · 21/07/2019 03:27

No worries Red - there's a lot of info, and it does get confusing. Have a look at the thread I linked to a few posts up as it has the background and is pretty punch up to date with where things are.

My worry is if we start speculating too much these threads will be pulled, and I'd hate to loose all this info.

GirlDownUnder · 21/07/2019 03:28

In keeping with OP YouTube has some interesting videos if you search for ‘bc human rights tribunal’

Just saying 

GirlDownUnder · 21/07/2019 03:29

Autocucumber is drunk....

pretty punch = pretty much obvs [sigh]

ahumanfemale · 21/07/2019 06:58

Autocucumber is drunk...
😂

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NeurotrashWarrior · 21/07/2019 08:44

YouTube has some interesting videos if you search for ‘bc human rights tribunal’

Op link has gone but this helped.

One minute in and I'm completely befuddled.

How is any of this being taken seriously?

SarahTancredi · 21/07/2019 09:39

What an absolute mess. Bow can anyone pull any relevant information out of that.

Did he really interrogate his own mother for heavens sake. She made mo sense what so ever.

When will we hear about the outcome

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 21/07/2019 10:14

How much longer will the case take to be heard? And, will there be any examination of JY by the defence, or is that not how this very peculiar hearing works?

emerencesometimeshopeful · 21/07/2019 10:24

For those who missed it - about 30seconds in the mother says 'ata yodeah' which translates in Hebrew to you (male) know.

There is no attempt to call out that 'misgendering'.

Yes, she is an immigrant. English not her first language. And her comments about immigrants who don't assimilate reveal more than she probably realises about her own history.

2BthatUnnoticed · 21/07/2019 10:35

thank you Ricky Gervais, for sharing this with your 13 million followers!

Video of JY tribunal.
2BthatUnnoticed · 21/07/2019 10:36

Might make a new thread

WeirdWoman · 21/07/2019 10:41

Ricky is very much gender critical. I saw him live a few months ago; about a 1/4 if his set was about stuff like this!

SarahPickles · 21/07/2019 11:53

For anyone newly joining this thread on Sunday morning, this YT channel has eight videos from the hearing 17 July.

That a supposedly sane govt in a sophisticated, civilised country could have voted for new laws that have facilitated insanity is mind-boggling.

In one video Yaniv suddenly claims to have a vulva and the defence lawyer points out that in all the months of preparation and all the paperwork Yaniv provided, this had never been mentioned -- in fact, JY had repeatedly stated that genitals are male ~ and indeed, this is the crux that the entire case hinges on!

So the lawyer says, OK a medical examination will settle this ambiguity, and Yaniv refuses, and states that the genitals in question, be they male or female, are irrelevant.

Surely when Yaniv refused to have the matter cleared up by an independent medical professional the tribunal should have been ended by someone in charge. Is anyone in charge any more?

www.youtube.com/channel/UCB3MxRIg1Tc3vxvy-2Uluug

www.youtube.com/channel/UCB3MxRIg1Tc3vxvy-2Uluug

Video of JY tribunal.
Boom25 · 21/07/2019 15:48

Is that the Waxmyballs youtube channel where we can now hear JY claiming to be intersex and having both sets of male and female external genital at once, despite this being medicaly impossible, even in the extremely rare genetic mosaicism types of intersex conditions (where the ovotestes tissue is always internal).

JessicaWakefieldSV · 21/07/2019 16:02

I really truly do not understand how this is even allowed. It’s a mess. A rambling strange mess that should not be indulged. I really don’t get how this has got this far at all.

JemimaTab · 22/07/2019 04:00

I am really unimpressed by how the Member (judge) is handling this. Yaniv is being allowed to waffle on incoherently about irrelevant stuff, the mother has clearly been coached, and there are constant lies and inconsistencies which go unchallenged.

MadameButterface · 22/07/2019 11:51

So the mother in this video seems to be saying that jy ‘came out’ to her last july? But in her testimony elsewhere in the case backs up jy’s assertion that they were ‘diagnosed as a girl’ aged 6, and has always presented as female in private, and started periods aged 13/14? Wtf, how is this allowed?

Datun · 22/07/2019 12:00

If JY is claiming to be intersex, couldn't someone just ask them what intersex condition they have? Because that would then determine what kind of genital configuration they possessed.

And presumably, any knowledgeable questioning would reveal that it was (or wasn't) a lie.

sakura184 · 22/07/2019 12:06

I read just recently that in all the history of humankind there have been roughly two cases where a human being has the genitals of both male and female: So intersex conditions basically mean something else. I don't know if that's correct, there is so much misinformation,

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