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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Doyoumind · 19/07/2019 03:20

Woke up and, not being able to get back to sleep, picked up my phone.

I haven't read them all, of course, but from what I can tell the 3000 responses to their tweet so far not surprisingly don't seem to be in support of their view.

twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1151763635221520384?s=19

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GirlDownUnder · 19/07/2019 03:30

Well they've certainly been ratio'd Grin It's about time, and it's good to also see the show Desmond is Amazing has also been negatively highlighted.

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AlwaysComingHome · 19/07/2019 03:35

I’m not sure ‘Trump hates paedophiles’ is as great a campaign strategy as Penis News thinks it is.

Xiaoxiong · 19/07/2019 03:41

So much homophobia in the comments Sad this is what I have been so worried about, that all the prejudice against gay people - gay men in particular - is going to come roaring back as a result. All the campaigning of the last few decades emphasising that gay relationships are about two consenting adults, love is love, marriage equality etc. and rooting out the PIE/Nambla types - it all seems to be going backwards.

ShagMeRiggins · 19/07/2019 03:59

Xiao homophobia? Where? I read through comments and didn’t see any homophobia, just a lot of “good” and “about time” and comments about safeguarding children.

Doyoumind · 19/07/2019 04:09

I didn't see homophobia either in what I read.

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GirlDownUnder · 19/07/2019 04:14

I didn't see homophobia either in what I read.

Me either, and I did go re-read, but thought may be I was just not sensitive enough to it.

Maybe Xiao could help out here?

Xiaoxiong · 19/07/2019 04:17

I'm on my phone up with a sick kid but I definitely saw tweets saying "so much for the lie that gay people don't hurt anyone" and rubbish like that

Xiaoxiong · 19/07/2019 04:20

Yes 99% of the comments are positive. But I definitely saw homophobic comments too, trying to scroll through many thousands of tweets now...

Xiaoxiong · 19/07/2019 04:22

Here are some, this is what I meant.

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Xiaoxiong · 19/07/2019 04:26

There was another one calling gay people degenerates but I can't find it.

Xiaoxiong · 19/07/2019 04:28

Oh a gay man has made a similar point!

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ShagMeRiggins · 19/07/2019 06:30

so much for the lie that gay people don't hurt anyone"

Didn’t see that tweet (probably didn’t expand enough threads) but did see Mikey D’s tweet and thought it was a good point.

Pota2 · 19/07/2019 06:41

Even if that Mikey D says it’s a good point, it’s still homophobic. The comment below it talks about bestiality and paedophilia as the ‘next thing’ on from accepting gay people. That is really sad. And there are homophobes out there unfortunately.

The problem I think is including a load of other stuff under the LGB umbrella. LGB is about sexual orientation. The only other letter that should be under there is maybe asexuals, but I struggle to understand how trans was ever thought to be appropriate to include under there, let alone all the others. Trans is not a sexual orientation. Intersex is a medical condition and it’s really insulting to those who have it to include them under that umbrella. Queer doesn’t seem to have any real meaning and seems to be used by straight people.

I feel sorry for LGB people who will now be set back decades due to this idiotic insistence that we have to embrace absolutely everything that people have a sexual preference for. No- some things are still harmful and it’s not ‘hate’ to say that.

CodenameVillanelle · 19/07/2019 06:49

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QueenofCBA · 19/07/2019 07:04

Wow, that backfired spectacularly, didn’t it!

I actually didn’t get that it was meant as a criticism and not an endorsement for a second. Blush

Pota2 · 19/07/2019 07:05

Yeah, I am thinking of people like Patrick Strudwick and Adrian Harrop and others who have encouraged stuff like this.

Goosefoot · 19/07/2019 07:09

love is love

I'm not sure this is doing anyone any favours either. It fits right in with all the really far out stuff.

SarahTancredi · 19/07/2019 07:09

Wow that really didnt go their way did it.

I feel awful for the gay bi and lesbian people who as many have said fought against being tied in with perverts and paedos. This crap is taking them right back there and its nor fair or right.

QuentinWinters · 19/07/2019 07:16

I feel sorry for LGB people who will now be set back decades due to this idiotic insistence that we have to embrace absolutely everything that people have a sexual preference for.

Yes. It drives me crackers. Being gay is about who you love and want to share your life with. Humans are social animals and want to live in a pair bond.
Being gay is not about sex. It's not the same as a fetish. Its homophobic to imply it is Angry

NotTerfNorCis · 19/07/2019 07:21

I can't imagine what PN thinks it's going to achieve by supporting the sexualisation of kids. It's like it thinks it has to defend any kind of sexual behaviour outside the mainstream.

ZebrasAreBras · 19/07/2019 07:23

A reminder that homophobia exists, but objecting to kids being groomed and sexualised is not homophobia.

Also 'Love is Love" is really dubious. A campaign poster included that AGE should also be no barrier - and had a depiction of a 34 yr old with a 10 year old.

Pota2 · 19/07/2019 07:49

Zebras i think the age thing was a hoax that someone did where they photoshopped the poster to say 36 and 10 even though the original one said 36 and 72 or something. But scarily, an LGBT Facebook retweeted the image with 10 on it with the caption ‘absolutely- love is love’. It shows how dangerous it is to just blindly accept it.

And I totally agree- being gay is not a fetish. The fact that some gay people have fetishes does not mean that fetishes must automatically be protected. Lots of straight people are into fetishes too and we don’t talk about dragging kids into that. Have seen some idiotic comments from people who seem to think that as soon as you mention LGBT, it automatically negates any potential harm to kids. Which is why they think an 11 year old podium dancer is great but probably wouldn’t think the same if it was an 11 year old girl in a strip club.

Gay or straight, the one thing that those who exploit people (male or female) for sexual gratification tend to have in common is that they are male. You’d never hear of a bunch of lesbians wanting to see a pre-pubescent girl dance in her underwear because sexual abuse by women is very rare and it certainly isn’t out in the open. So maybe the lesson to learn is that being gay doesn’t stop men from being men.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/07/2019 07:55

In ye olde days some people would have the horrible and just wrong belief that homosexual men were a danger to children.

Dressing up little boys as drag queens - the only ones I’ve seen have been highly sexualised in their performance and ‘on the scene’ (posing with butt naked adults, photos with dubious characters, money thrown at them in nightclubs, drugs references...). It’s not exactly dampening down the old perception is it?

A bunch of hetero men throwing money at a little girl in a nightclub dancing in a crop too and daisy dukes - how would that look?

CodenameVillanelle · 19/07/2019 08:04

The outrage against that NSPCC employee who had a rubber fetish was decried as homophobic, as if it's a necessary part of being gay to have fetishes.
Fetish is a particularly type of sexuality which includes gay, straight and bisexual people. Most people aren't fetishists and that includes most gay men too. Why the obfuscation? Who does it serve?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/07/2019 08:09

Why does sex come into this? Human rights don’t usually include the right to dress up as a cartoon dog and have sex with a person dressed up as secret squirrel. I believe a human right is NOT to be sexually abused or raped but I could be wrong here...