Banned from women-only FB group

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A trans woman edited by MNHQ because OP is using second language posted in a women's only FB group wanting free emotional labour and "validation" from untrained women to help them with getting over their abusive ex boyfriend.

I stated it wasn't appropriate to ask untrained women to take on their emotional labour, especially considering what had happened to them was so traumatic (according to them they ended up in hospital), and especially not for free and suggested they seek professional help instead.

Cue trans woman and women stating I was being transphobic, and "wouldn't understand the fear a marginalised group would go through."

I was told I hadn't been through a traumatic experience before so couldn't possibly understand what the OP was going through.

I've been banned from a group specifically designed for women. Nowhere in the post did I mention anything about the OP being trans.

I am so sick of this shit. The world has gone mad.

The OP was about a woman being banned from a FB group of her professional peers because she didn't think it was the space to provide emotional support (unpaid) to someone randomly posting about their trauma.

And yes obviously there were women in the group who decided to change its nature for this MTF trans but there are always women, as we've seen on this thread, who want to open the door and remove women's boundaries to males. It makes it very difficult for the rest of us.

But it was their group, they set the rules. So whose boundaries did they remove?

OP didn't lose anything nor was she disadvantaged because a transwoman was permitted to enter the group.

The OP along with at least one other woman lost access to a professional group because of a TW. They have absolutely been disadvantaged by this.

That you value an anonymous, bearded, inappropriate gatecrasher's feelings more than the importance of having respectful discourse with someone you are speaking to on here is depressing.

It's always worth noting that you can see many people don't actually see MTF trans as women, given how carefully they tend to their feelings and wants. Women would never get that kind of treatment.

"Thrown out of a Facebook group you've been posting in for two years? You deserved it."

I bought ds2 The art of war

In hindsight that may have been a mistake

Yes, Decomposing the tw claimed it was offensive

And other women said that it was offensive too. And presumably admin agreed that it was offensive.

So maybe, it was offensive.

That’s cos you have the tertiary Lang 😉
How long ago was that Lang

Cripes nearly a year

That you value an anonymous, bearded, inappropriate gatecrasher's feelings more than the importance of having respectful discourse with someone you are speaking to on here is depressing

I go by how I find people. Not whether they're male or female.

The OP along with at least one other woman lost access to a professional group because of a TW. They have absolutely been disadvantaged by this.

But they weren't disadvantaged merely because a transwoman was allowed to enter nor by anything the transwoman did - as is the case in sport.

They were disadvantaged only because they objected to the trans individual's posts in a manner that was deemed transphobic.

The OP along with at least one other woman lost access to a professional group because of a TW. They have absolutely been disadvantaged by this

How do you know that it was because of a TW? it sounds like it was because of what the op posted. So, the op was banned because of what the OP did, not because of anyone else.

They removed the OP's , and anybody else's ability to set boundaries in the group who might not want to be the Big Ear (see Kinflicks) to a MTF trans. They changed the whole group to accommodate this person, whilst banning long-standing members.

Why don’t you change your name to littlebrowndog ?

"They were disadvantaged"

Yes she was. And the group, if history repeats itself as it usually does, will also be disadvantaged, because MTF trans in these sorts of situations usually destroy the group. I've seen it happening.

Can I ? Without losing all my past ?

So maybe, it was offensive.

And maybe it wasn't.

I have seen these storms blow up out of nothing. That's the point here, which the usual suspects are missing, or trying hard to obscure. Women's Facebook groups are deliberately targeted.

Yes she was. And the group, if history repeats itself as it usually does, will also be disadvantaged, because MTF trans in these sorts of situations usually destroy the group. I've seen it happening.

Indeed.

They changed the whole group to accommodate this person, whilst banning long-standing members.

Yes, the admin set rules but because TW claimed transphobia the rules were ignored and long standing members evicted. It was a German language tech start up group not an English speaking TW support group!

Yup, I've seen feminist groups falling apart over MTF trans and their behaviour.

Lesbian women are having a particularly difficult time of it at the moment. MichFest no longer exists because of trans activism. Vancouver Rape Relief was under continuous attack for years because it wouldn't "validate" a MTF trans.

Your past will remain under your old name

You would still show as being a member when ever you started

And to be fair not many people would notice the change

They removed the OP's , and anybody else's ability to set boundaries in the group

That isn't how Facebook groups work. It's the admin who set the rules, not the members.

It never was up to the op, or any other member, to set the rules.

I'm a member of several groups. I often see admin admonishing members for violating rules and telling them that these are the rules, if you don't like it leave they're not open for discussion.

And so what if she had been a member for 2 years? She was deemed to have made an offensive post. I don't see what difference it matters how long she'd been a member.

If she'd posted a racist comment would you be saying it was the fault of the victim and that as the person who said it had been a member longer it was ok?

The only narrative we have about the issue is that if the OP. The only perception is OP's. The only description is that recounted by the OP. The only account is the OPs account. The only person who can channel any of what happened there, is the OP.

And there are still some women who are disagreeing, with the account, description, narrative and perception of the only possible person to give it.

In order to centre men.

🤣

lang for a start

She didn’t notice the littl she sure as hell won’t notice the little

I blame the weetabix addiction

Thank you Lang!

I'm going to imagine it's a beautifully worded novel about the southern ocean and the protagonist is a strong, capable and witty, hard whisky drinking women who sails from one adventure to the next.

Can I ? Without losing all my past ?

Yes! If anyone searches your posts, they'll only find the new name not your old one. That's the only difference.

I like it without the E now I've seen it though.

Yes she was. And the group, if history repeats itself as it usually does, will also be disadvantaged, because MTF trans in these sorts of situations usually destroy the group. I've seen it happening.

Closed groups with 'women' in the title are targeted. Tech groups in particular, maybe as a field that certain people feel is not for women.