Banned from women-only FB group

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A trans woman edited by MNHQ because OP is using second language posted in a women's only FB group wanting free emotional labour and "validation" from untrained women to help them with getting over their abusive ex boyfriend.

I stated it wasn't appropriate to ask untrained women to take on their emotional labour, especially considering what had happened to them was so traumatic (according to them they ended up in hospital), and especially not for free and suggested they seek professional help instead.

Cue trans woman and women stating I was being transphobic, and "wouldn't understand the fear a marginalised group would go through."

I was told I hadn't been through a traumatic experience before so couldn't possibly understand what the OP was going through.

I've been banned from a group specifically designed for women. Nowhere in the post did I mention anything about the OP being trans.

I am so sick of this shit. The world has gone mad.

Scrabble is not a game.

Reported.

Yes, Decomposing the tw claimed it was offensive. What's offensive is subjective though, isn't it? But the sad reality is that despite claiming to be the most oppressed tw seem to have huge power because as soon as they utter the word transphobic no further debate is allowed. To be called transphobic is toxic and the group admins, whatever their personal views are, likely felt they no choice but to block or risk being called transphobic themselves. As even mentioning that tw are biologically male is seen as transphobic it doesn't take much.

Lots of people post here in good faith. Others less so.

Great advice 👆

Women are being asked the same of Hubbard as the OP was of the MTF trans in her tech group - smile, shut up and say nothing when they take up women's places and women's spaces. Otherwise they'll be berated for being "transphobic". In the case of the sportswomen they could lose their careers and be publicly traduced. In the OP's case she's lost an important professional resource. Women are suffering material losses. I still don't see how any woman could support this.

Omg I just relaisd that ppl think 👆this is giving finger
It’s not it’s pointing to poster up. Lols.
Haha

Reported

Maybe op was banned for what she actually said because it was offensive?

Close. Maybe op was banned for what she actually said because it was offensive to them. This was their right of course. We all get offended by different things. Doesn't mean what she said was offensive full stop.

A lot of people on here don't think what the op said was offensive. A minority do. It's unlikely anyone will change their feelings on this.

Lots of people post here in good faith. Others less so

I agree with that

little

Oh is that what they are on about

I agree it’s definitely pointing finger...

roses

This

Women are being asked the same of Hubbard as the OP was of the MTF trans in her tech group - smile, shut up

Yeah rufus used to show who taiking about

If I was wanting to be rude then I just would be rude
But anyway great posts from ppl upthere

A fb group for woman in tech is not comparable to woman’s sport.

An abuse victim asking for help deserves to be listened too, not berated because they’re not a real woman and shouldn’t be posting there.

I don’t think OPs reply (the one she’s now said she sent) is transphobic or that she should’ve been booted if her version was true, I also agree it’s not the best place for it but it’s seriously clutching at straws to suggest this is similar to a transwoman wanting to run a woman’s race.

I really hope the transwoman in question doesn’t read this vile thread.

Rufus 🤣

I have a 19 year old DS. Bare is yoof speak for lots. Barelove means lots of love. But I see how it could look

An abuse victim asking for help deserves to be listened too

Totally agree

I really hope the transwoman in question doesn’t read this vile thread

Same

Roses taking people's opinions and turning them around reminds me a lot of my ex.

It seems to me some people want to be contrary, wind other people up and be disrespectful. Just my personal opinion of course.

They dont even have a ‘giving someone the finger emoji’

I dont know how they’ve missed that (the emoji people not MNHQ)

Roses taking people's opinions and turning them around reminds me a lot of my ex

OK, where have I done that?

Bare is yoof speak for lots. Barelove means lots of love

Oh thank god!!!

I have a 20 year old 17 year old and 16 year old

In this house bare means naked

Women being told to move over for the males - whether in sport, tech groups, changing rooms, panels... It's wrong and women have every right to fight against it.

It seems odd to me that posters are criticised both for spending too much time on MN but also for not having commented on X, Y, Z other threads on the feminist board.

I absolutely don't support Hubbard. OP didn't lose anything nor was she disadvantaged because a transwoman was permitted to enter the group. Other women choosing to discuss and offer support on an "off topic" issue took nothing away from OP.

That OP's objection was deemed offensive is unfortunate.

OK, where have I done that?

"Let's go round again....baby we'll turn back the hands of ti-i-ime, lets go round again... one more time"

Women's sport is a profession. The FB group was an online space for women in tech to discuss aspects of their profession.

Neither arena is appropriate for males to look for "validation" for their womanhood, be it taking women's sporting medals, or demanding emotional support from a group of women who are clearly there to do something completely different. And yes obviously there were women in the group who decided to change its nature for this MTF trans but there are always women, as we've seen on this thread, who want to open the door and remove women's boundaries to males. It makes it very difficult for the rest of us.

Women being told to move over for the males - whether in sport, tech groups, changing rooms, panels... It's wrong and women have every right to fight against it

That wasn't what the OP was about though - it was about a transwoman saying she wanted help with getting over her abusive ex boyfriend.
Why is it about women move over in this case? Are you meaning transwomen shouldn't be in the group at all? Because if so the group clearly sees transwomen as women and lets them into the group?

I'm a book character!

Also: I only play sedate games so don't start any wars and I'm a bit thick with emojis so if I wanted to point upwards I would go ↑ ↑ ↑ .

Also, also: I can spell little All By Myself.

I win, right?

Roses - my comment about posting in good faith.

That you value an anonymous, bearded, inappropriate gatecrasher's feelings more than the importance of having respectful discourse with someone you are speaking to on here is depressing.