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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Banned from women-only FB group

999 replies

maet · 14/07/2019 00:47

A trans woman edited by MNHQ because OP is using second language posted in a women's only FB group wanting free emotional labour and "validation" from untrained women to help them with getting over their abusive ex boyfriend.

I stated it wasn't appropriate to ask untrained women to take on their emotional labour, especially considering what had happened to them was so traumatic (according to them they ended up in hospital), and especially not for free and suggested they seek professional help instead.

Cue trans woman and women stating I was being transphobic, and "wouldn't understand the fear a marginalised group would go through."

I was told I hadn't been through a traumatic experience before so couldn't possibly understand what the OP was going through.

I've been banned from a group specifically designed for women. Nowhere in the post did I mention anything about the OP being trans.

I am so sick of this shit. The world has gone mad.

OP posts:
maet · 14/07/2019 22:01

Crap, forgot I'm not supposed to @ people, I'm sorry!

OP posts:
maet · 14/07/2019 22:02

AloneLonelyLoner thank you. Sorry it's happened to you also. Quite terrifying. Feels dystopian almost.

OP posts:
littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:04

Well it’s true. You go round in every decreasing circles with nowt of interest to say
If you had something interesting to say but been sadly lacking

But hey no doubt you will crack on regardless 🤦‍♀️

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/07/2019 22:05

Crap, forgot I'm not supposed to @ people, I'm sorry

You can @ people

Its just that some people dont like it, especially if they are already on the thread so they may ask you to stop doing it

It makes their email inbox go off everytime Grin

littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:06

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

howdyalikemenow · 14/07/2019 22:06

I've read the full thread and can honestly say I'm speechless at a lot of the nonsense spouted on here. Op it seems wrong that you were booted off based on the info you've given and no, that group wasn't appropriate for the content. Why are people trying so hard to trip you up on here? I just don't get it! It's like a competition to see who can trick the op into revealing her true and obviously nefarious intentions!

Erythronium · 14/07/2019 22:08

Women are losing so much because of MTF trans. We're losing our private spaces, our professional spaces, our political spaces, our platforms, our jobs, our right to free speech, our right to define ourselves, our right to set boundaries, our right to name the predators and potential predators who threaten us.

On the other thread about Laurel Hubbard we're losing our ability to compete in sport as males take the top spots, in this case from women of colour. I don't understand how any woman can support this.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 14/07/2019 22:09

Why are people trying so hard to trip you up on here? I just don't get it! It's like a competition to see who can trick the op into revealing her true and obviously nefarious intentions!

^ uh huh

Datun · 14/07/2019 22:12

Also, OP, this is a thread you might find useful. It explains a lot about transgenderism.

(The term 'break it down' means deconstruct it onto its individual parts to make it easier to understand.)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

DecomposingComposers · 14/07/2019 22:13

Erythronium

But surely the women running the Facebook group did set their own boundaries? It's just that the op didn't agree with them and tried to breach them so they banned op. Which was sticking to their boundaries.

Why were they wrong to do that? They have clearly decided who they are willing to accept into their group. That's their decision to make isn't it?

Datun · 14/07/2019 22:13

*into, not onto !

PCohle · 14/07/2019 22:13

Deliberately derailing a thread you had previously contributed absolutely nothing to to "start a war". Gleefully posting "Back war started" when you predictably succeed in derailing the thread, and giving the finger to other posters is a totally risible way to behave.

littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:15

Well pchole. I game had to go start a war. That’s what gamers do

RosesAndRaindrops · 14/07/2019 22:15

Deliberately derailing a thread you had previously contributed absolutely nothing to to "start a war". Gleefully posting "Back war started" when you predictably succeed in derailing the thread, and giving the finger to other posters is a totally risible way to behave

Exactly, but it's apparently fine and dandy to do this if it's a poster you agree with, but not if it's one you don't agree with.
Hypocrisy on here is ridiculous sometimes.

littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:16

Oh is that was I was deleted for

Ok gonna speak to mumsnet hq

littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:17

Women game

RosesAndRaindrops · 14/07/2019 22:18

Oh, it's gamers you were referring to? Wow, can you honestly hear yourself - you said it on this thread about this thread and "starting wars" but now it's "I meant I go game, had to go start a war, that's what gamers do*
This thread is nothing to do with gamers.
I think there's a word some like on here for what you're trying to do.
Gaslight, as in "I didn't mean that silly, I meant this!"

RosesAndRaindrops · 14/07/2019 22:19

And as in trying to make people doubt themselves to what you were saying.
I'd say it's unbelievable but sadly it isn't anymore.

sakura184 · 14/07/2019 22:20

It only serves to underline that the feminist board doesn't actually welcome genuine discussion of feminist issues but has instead become an echo chamber for certain vehemently GC posters.

I always tell people who use this argument on my threads that FWR is an alternative forum for those who want to discuss topics in a way that differs from mainstream thought.

Mainstream people should take their boring mainstream views to the billions of other places online where those views would be welcomed and agreed with. Literally anywhere.

Those hoping to escape mainstream thought come here and then the mainstreamers still manage to seek us out and impose their tiresome, common opinions on us. Opinions we already know because we've heard them so many times before

littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:20

I game I start wars I game that’s what gamers do

PCohle · 14/07/2019 22:20

Ok gonna speak to mumsnet hq

You do that. I'm sure they'll see how totally reasonable your post literally just giving another poster the finger emoji was. "Because you're a gamer". GrinHmm

littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:21

And when we game we have to start war on time

littlbrowndog · 14/07/2019 22:22

Ouchie pchole you are so mean

RosesAndRaindrops · 14/07/2019 22:23

Sunlight. It's always good as people like to say on here.

PCohle · 14/07/2019 22:25

I always tell people who use this argument on my threads that FWR is an alternative forum for those who want to discuss topics in a way that differs from mainstream thought.

That's not MNHQ's view of it though. And this thread is a wonderful illustration of the fact that it's the forum's moderators who get to decide who is allowed to post and what is allowed to be discussed, not individual users. Smile

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